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Mike Ely FIRAXIS posted 11-06-98 06:02 PM ET   Click Here to See the Profile for Mike Ely FIRAXIS   Click Here to Email Mike Ely FIRAXIS  
Hey everyone:

Sorry to tell you that we decided to move back the demo (as you can see from the countdown). We haven't changed our master date, but we want more of the game finished before the demo goes out. The current demo date is Dec 20th, and the current date for the release of the game is January 1999.

Of course we don't want to deprive you of Alpha-related fun, but we want the best game at the best time for everyone.

Enter your cries of anguish below!

Old_Guy posted 11-06-98 06:05 PM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for Old_Guy  Click Here to Email Old_Guy     
AHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Thanks. I feel better already.

Talon posted 11-06-98 06:06 PM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for Talon  Click Here to Email Talon     
Damn!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
this is gonna piss some people off!
(Starcraft all over again?)
-Talon
Maya posted 11-06-98 06:06 PM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for Maya  Click Here to Email Maya     
Let me just say this: AAAAARRRRRRGGGGGGGGGG!!!

But let me aslso say that I understand your reasons. If the demo sucks, then people will be less likely to buy the finished product.

Anyway, I can't wait to play it...

-Maya

talon54 posted 11-06-98 06:33 PM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for talon54  Click Here to Email talon54     
I hope that long range patch wont have to be applied to the game itself.Get rid of that damn@#@#%%%%%%% counter on the site.It only raises your expectations when the times arent met. Rats Charlie Brown.AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGHHHHHHHHHHHH.
O242 2 posted 11-06-98 06:34 PM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for O242 2  Click Here to Email O242 2     
I am kind of getting used to this wait-and-post lifestyle. I really don;t think we need a game or a demo, we get all we need from our friends.

right friends?

Tawdal posted 11-06-98 06:48 PM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for Tawdal  Click Here to Email Tawdal     
CWAL HV now has a duty here. Mike Ely, your life may be spared. CONSIDER YOURSELF LUCKY.
Mortis posted 11-06-98 06:54 PM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for Mortis  Click Here to Email Mortis     
I don't mind that much, as long as you get THE OLD FORUMS BACK!!!!!. You know the original date for the demo was 15 October. Seems like ages ago.
Apocalypse posted 11-06-98 07:23 PM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for Apocalypse  Click Here to Email Apocalypse     
Newbie. I was around when the release date of the FULL GAME was Oct. 15.
Mortis posted 11-06-98 07:26 PM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for Mortis  Click Here to Email Mortis     
They said Fall 1998! They never quoted 15 Oct! I know that the middle of fall is 15 Oct, but they never quoted it!!!
NotLikeTea posted 11-06-98 08:11 PM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for NotLikeTea  Click Here to Email NotLikeTea     
I remember when i had it all planned....

Buy SimCity 2000 in august, SMAC in October.

I don't think either is out yet.

DarkLight posted 11-06-98 08:14 PM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for DarkLight  Click Here to Email DarkLight     
BWAHAHAHA!!!!! Fool Firaxis employee, you shall now feel our wrath!!!!
Kurn posted 11-06-98 08:21 PM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for Kurn  Click Here to Email Kurn     
NO! dont kill, him yet, let them desing and release the game first, then, we strike!
Spoe posted 11-06-98 08:36 PM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for Spoe  Click Here to Email Spoe     
Eh, it'll be out when it's out and not before. 'Till then, sit back, have a ProSMAC, and post to the forums. You'll be happy, I'll be happy, and we won't have the guys at Firaxis looking over their backs.
Antiam posted 11-06-98 08:45 PM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for Antiam  Click Here to Email Antiam     
Doh!!!
SnowFire posted 11-06-98 09:10 PM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for SnowFire  Click Here to Email SnowFire     
Arghh! I wrote this all up and I accidently hit clear fields instead of Submit Reply? Why is that button there, it's not like anyone uses it!

I would whine some more, but fortunatly it was about a 2 sentence post I lost. So no biggie...

I agree with Maya, better to release a good demo that would attract more people to glorify the church of Sid&Brian with $$. By the way, is Electronic Arts your publiser again? Or are you going with someone different? Though it's probably too late now, I'd like to suggest in house publishing- I know Bungie did that with Myth: The Fallen Lords, and while fewer copies may have been sold due to the superior distribution of a publisher, they got to keep 100% of the profits instead of 30%. And no arguing about how much the game actually sold.

And talon54, please use some spaces, you make the topic scroll when you type a long string of characters.

DJ RRebel posted 11-06-98 09:25 PM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for DJ RRebel  Click Here to Email DJ RRebel     
Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeaaahooooo!!!

OK OK ... now you're all going to think I'm nuts, but did you read Mike's post properly??

The date for the release of the game is 1999Jan !!!

Yiiiiiiiiiiipppy !!!

That'll also give me an extra month to finish my current game of Civ2 !!!

OK ... now Mike ... thanks for being up front with us, but next time please pass this info on to us a little earlier, in fact a weekly update on the progress of the game would be great fun for all of us I think plus it would make many more people less frustrated if they understood why these delay's were neccisary !!!

But I think this is the first time we've gotten a date out of Firazis in like 4 months or something like that !!!

talon54 posted 11-07-98 07:05 PM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for talon54  Click Here to Email talon54     
I never knew a game programmer I couldnt tame with a right cross or a slug from a.44.(Said with a cigarette in your mouth in a trench coat like Humphry bogart.)I hope you get this game out before we have to deal with the Y2K problem or your going to have Smac the board game.Just breath deeply and say SMAC will arrive when it is ready.....may the code be with you.
BigER posted 11-07-98 07:19 PM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for BigER  Click Here to Email BigER     
I think some words of wisdom are called for here-for the anguish of the SMAC deprived is so hard to watch without feeling some simpathy. So I, BigE Jester of the Gods will now
bring forth the wisdom of the ages to sooth the frail and weak the downtroden SMACers that have waited ever so long for their deep desire to bloom forth and gave them solice in their hour of need.

And here it is.....


I am now going to tell you all the meaning of life. Since you will have this wisdom to hold to your chest, you shall not wont. You shall not need for anything.


So here goes......


Because you can't imagine the joy you will know. You will not Crave SMAC.


And now the moment you have been waiting for.


AH hemmm,...

Are you ready?


Good here goes...

Always....


Hmmm no. Never......

I've got it written down somewhere.....


I once knew the meaning of life but forgot to write it down.

Oh well.

DJ RRebel posted 11-07-98 08:17 PM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for DJ RRebel  Click Here to Email DJ RRebel     
The meaning of life is 42 !!!
Medivh posted 11-07-98 10:04 PM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for Medivh  Click Here to Email Medivh     
A desperate fan cries out: AAAAGGGGGGGGHHHHHH

-then put a gun at his forehead and starts playing russian roulette- one shot a month SMAC is delayed-

Well 'ere we go again. It's makes one wanna cry to ead it but as Maya correctly pointed out: it's more important that we get a great demo and a great game as well.

Shining1 posted 11-08-98 12:46 AM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for Shining1  Click Here to Email Shining1     
Demo, what demo? Oh, that demo. Yes, I had forgotten. Oh well...
HermitTwig posted 11-08-98 01:28 AM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for HermitTwig  Click Here to Email HermitTwig     
Hey NotLikeTea, don't you mean SimCity 3000?I thought that was supposed to be out a while ago, too.
Jeje posted 11-08-98 04:55 AM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for Jeje  Click Here to Email Jeje     
Kurn I have a better idea.
Lets challenge the team to virtual fight on Alpha Aenauri. This way (after they are dead) we still might get a new game from Firaxis.

Mike Ely PLEASE send a weekly note here.
(If you wanna do something better, we understand, but PLEASE tell it then A.S.A.P.)
Thank you!

DJ RRebel posted 11-08-98 04:18 PM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for DJ RRebel  Click Here to Email DJ RRebel     
Yes ... as I said a weekly update would be great ... maybe you could have a game diary that comes out on thursdays or something so we could have 2 days a week to look forward to instead of just one !!!
Shining1 posted 11-09-98 01:25 AM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for Shining1  Click Here to Email Shining1     
NO!! This is Stupid Management Practises 101! No weekly updates! Just finish the game, make it good, and release the occasioal updated screenshot to keep everyone happy.
DJ RRebel posted 11-09-98 01:29 AM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for DJ RRebel  Click Here to Email DJ RRebel     
But I'm not happy if I don't know what's going on !!!
Anyways .. all they'd have to do is send us the same copy they
send to EA on the progress of the game!!!

I'm sure they do that about once a week !!!
Not much work involved there ...
but at the same time we could gain insight into the game !!!

Mortis posted 11-09-98 02:23 AM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for Mortis  Click Here to Email Mortis     
They are all too busy. Don't you see, before the forums went down Mike was posting left right and center, even in the off the topic threads. But now they'e got a lot of work, with the demo delayed and getting the old forums back up here.
DJ RRebel posted 11-09-98 03:02 AM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for DJ RRebel  Click Here to Email DJ RRebel     
OK ..well, all I'm saying is they're only getting people more and more upset and turned off the game by hiding the truth ... I personally want to be able to tell all my friends about this game, but am afraid I'll look like a nut for supporting a game that has already been delayed half a year !!! It doesn't bother me that the game isn't out on time, I just want to know its status so I can gage for myself how much longer we'll have to wait !!!

All I'm asking for is something like this:

Week 135 >>>
- Touched up artwork on secret projects.
- Still have to tweek out mutli player lag ... ETA of lag fix 2 weeks
- Haven't asked that hot waitress at the restaurant yet .. ETA on that 5 years
- In the final fazes of working out an efficient >saved game< format ... ETA 1 week theory, + 2 weeks to implement !!!

It doesn't have to be detailed, just enough to give us an idea .. I don't know about you, but I feel like a blind person not knowing what's happening !!!

And don't get me wrong, I'm the first person who will support a delay in the game if I know why .. it's something I'd forgive if they are working on the multi issue but not is they're spending all their time trying to put up the babes at the restaurant at the corner !!!

Trev posted 11-09-98 03:53 AM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for Trev  Click Here to Email Trev     

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG
YIPPPPPPPPPPPPA ZAPPY DOODLE DING DONG HELL CRAP


Geez!!!! i knew it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

NEVER TRUST WHAT ANYONE ONE SAYS!!!!!!!!

DJ RRebel posted 11-09-98 03:58 AM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for DJ RRebel  Click Here to Email DJ RRebel     
Trev .. just a guess !!! Are you a bit upset ???
Would it have been easier on you if you had seen it coming ??? Even just a bit ???
Thought so !!!
Oh well .. just know that the game will be fully released in January !!!
Trev posted 11-09-98 04:00 AM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for Trev  Click Here to Email Trev     

Sorry i got outta control!!!!! DAMNIT!!!!


being a webmaster at fraxis is gotta be fun! update the page evry 2 weeks! sittin around all day!!! not bothing to update unless told so! hm...... webmaster huh.....

DJ RRebel posted 11-09-98 04:04 AM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for DJ RRebel  Click Here to Email DJ RRebel     
now now .. lol .. be nice .. I'm sure they'll update us a little more if we asked them NICELY !!!
Trev posted 11-09-98 04:15 AM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for Trev  Click Here to Email Trev     


GEEZ!! MAKE UP YOUR MIND FIRST YOU SAY NOV. 16 I WAS SOOOOO EXCITED!!!

NOW YOU SAY DEC. 20! IT IS ANOTHER STARCRAFT
AND I WANNA PUKE!!!!

I TELL YOU WHAT IF SMAC COMES OUT WHEN THE SAY! I'LL GIVE YOU ALL A quark AN electron
AND SOME GLUE

MikeH II posted 11-09-98 06:28 AM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for MikeH II  Click Here to Email MikeH II     
I'd rather have a good game late than a nearly finished one on time. I'm glad FIRAXIS have got the option to release it only when it is ready and Jan 1999 confirmed by firaxis sounds good to me.
DJ RRebel posted 11-09-98 06:32 AM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for DJ RRebel  Click Here to Email DJ RRebel     
Trev .. lol .. judging from your tone ..
I think it might be you who is the certified wacko !!!

As for MikeH's post .. I agree ...
but a little more info on the game would be nice !!!

Elijazzzz posted 11-09-98 08:14 AM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for Elijazzzz  Click Here to Email Elijazzzz     
What a very galant way to put it... (sob)
...thank you.
I feel confident that it will help us SMAC-decibles thru the next months of despair!!
DJ RRebel posted 11-09-98 09:17 AM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for DJ RRebel  Click Here to Email DJ RRebel     
Elijazzzz ... welcome to the board !!!

I was just curious as to what post you were refering to ???
I couldn't find any gallant responses here !!!

Roland posted 11-09-98 10:49 AM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for Roland  Click Here to Email Roland     
Delayed, and we were getting sooo close...

Vadommt, kruzitirkn, vafluacht, mist elendiga,
so a schmarrn, teifi eini a, des deaf jo net woa sei,
wia homma's denn...

Ehm..
sorry for the outbreak.

"Shoot me!"
(Al Bundy)

MikeH II posted 11-09-98 11:01 AM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for MikeH II  Click Here to Email MikeH II     
I know what mist is, I can guess the rest.
At least the gist anyway.
Ilkka K posted 11-09-98 11:12 AM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for Ilkka K  Click Here to Email Ilkka K     
AaARrgGh... december I can't wait that long :-(
But atleast I have something to do on x-mas holiday
BigER posted 11-09-98 12:17 PM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for BigER  Click Here to Email BigER     
Hey DJRREB.....
Although the number of the meaning of life might be 42 (and I'm not commiting myself to that just yet) The actual MEANING of life is not a number it is so much more.....and if I could remember what it is I would tell you, but.....Just like the 60s if you can remember the 60s you weren't there.

Ahhhh...choooooo
no smilys. please

MikeH II posted 11-09-98 12:23 PM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for MikeH II  Click Here to Email MikeH II     
I can't remember the 60s does that mean I WAS there? I was only born in the 70s so I doubt it but I might just have forgotten or something. What was I talking about?
Roland posted 11-09-98 01:10 PM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for Roland  Click Here to Email Roland     
Hmmm...

If you can remember the 60ies, you weren't there.
If you can't remember the 60ies, you just might have been there, and there's no way to tell. Anyone who had seen you there wouldn't remember either. So let us "70ies-born" people just say we were there until someone proves the opposite.

BigER posted 11-09-98 01:16 PM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for BigER  Click Here to Email BigER     
You could be there in spirit

Or you could have been the twinkle in your fathers eye in the 60s but if he was in the 60s and didn't remember he would have been there but wouldn't remember the twinkle.

Ummmm....ouch this is getting complicated.

DJ RRebel posted 11-16-98 02:28 PM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for DJ RRebel  Click Here to Email DJ RRebel     
Bringing this back up in hopes Mike Ely reads some of our replies and ideas !!!
DJ RRebel posted 11-16-98 02:48 PM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for DJ RRebel  Click Here to Email DJ RRebel     
lol .. I just realised that some of you might have
thought that this was another delay !!!

Sorry if you thought that !!!

This is an old thread brought up again !!!

Sorry once again !!!

I almost tricked myself too !!!

CClark posted 11-16-98 02:52 PM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for CClark  Click Here to Email CClark     
As much as I'm looking forward to the game,
I'm also happy that Firaxis is holding the
release until they are ready. (Of course,
SIN was supposedly held until it was ready
and from what I've heard it's still buggy.)

I've bought far to many "Betas in a box" that
are being sold as final products. In fact,
I can't remember the last time I bought a
game and DIDN'T have to get a patch.

No...wait, I think it was Civilization. (Actually, The Neverhood also didn't have a patch and was kind of cute. )

Maybe I'm just buying the wrong games..?

DHE_X2 posted 11-16-98 02:53 PM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for DHE_X2  Click Here to Email DHE_X2     
Gadzooks!!!, I did think that this was another delay. Good, I can take my magnum out of my mouth now...
DJ RRebel posted 11-16-98 02:55 PM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for DJ RRebel  Click Here to Email DJ RRebel     
DHE ... lol .. sorry buddy !!!

But I thought they would have told you BETA testers more info on the release dates by now !!!

dushan posted 11-16-98 02:59 PM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for dushan  Click Here to Email dushan     
Hey, come on everyone, deadlines are set for programmers so that they do some work. No one should actually expect a normal programmer to meet one (At least no one expects me to meet my deadlines ).

I'm still finishing off a project that was supposed to be finished in September

I won't mind too much if the Jan99 deadline will slip. An alternative is releasing game with some rough edges, which would be for me much more disappointing. I think programmers work a lot harder if they haven't released a game yet - patches are produced in a much more leasurly pace.

So I say, they seem to be doing a damn fine job. Let them do it.

However, more updates and some more screenshots would be very appreciated. A couple of lines a week would make many, many people extatic and I don't think 10 minutes a week will in any way slow down the progress.

Dushan

Atvar posted 11-17-98 07:44 AM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for Atvar  Click Here to Email Atvar     
WHAT?
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRGGGGHHHHHHHHHHH (my death cries)
DJ RRebel posted 11-17-98 10:15 AM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for DJ RRebel  Click Here to Email DJ RRebel     
I completely egree with you dushan !!!
CClark posted 11-17-98 12:18 PM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for CClark  Click Here to Email CClark     
Let's see, I'm a programmer and currently have NO deadlines. So I am busy reading and occasionally posting in the SMAC forums.

I think that proves dushan's point, eh?

Fluke posted 11-17-98 05:01 PM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for Fluke  Click Here to Email Fluke     
BigER:
Is a twinkle the same as hornyness or what?

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