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Giant posted 06-10-99 05:51 PM ET   Click Here to See the Profile for Giant  
This faction has been playtested on lib./abundant/ironman and proved to be not bad. Let me know what you think...

;
; Sid Meier's ALPHA CENTAURI
;
; FACTION FILE: Ascetic Seekers
;
; Copyright (c) 1997, 1998 by Firaxis Games, Inc.
;
; ALPHA CENTAURI reads the rules of the game from this file at
; startup. Feel free, at your own risk, to experiment with editing
; this file. We recommend you make a backup copy of the original.
;

#Seekers
Ascetic Seekers, The Perfectionist, Seekers, F, 2, Morgaine, F, 0, 0, 0, 0, 1,
SOCIAL, --GROWTH, SOCIAL, --POLICE, SOCIAL, +PLANET, SOCIAL, +PROBE, SOCIAL, +EFFIC, PENALTY, Police State, PENALTY, Planned, IMPUNITY, Eudaimonic, POPULATION, 3, PSI, 20
Future Society, Eudaimonic, GROWTH
Future Society, Thought Control, nil
Ascetic, Perfectionist,
Seeker, Yogi, Roof of the World
Mistress, enlightened, obsessive-compulsive, seeking, mindless,
Psycho-babbling Twit
attain enlightenment
to explore and claim the inherent potential of the individual
reducing humanity to a degenerate species of mindless chanters
reducing humanity to a degenerate species of stupefied "Dreamweavers"
reduce those foolhardy enough to listen to mindless chanting vessels of mediocrity
attempting to achieve the monstrosity of "Enlightenment"
extolling your contrived view of humanity and human "happiness"
a spurious quest for self-perfection and eudaimonia
blowhard diatribes on the human condition, M1
eudaimonic visionquests, M2
pagan rituals of cleansing and unbridled hedonism, M2
eudaimonic tithe, M1
achieving the unlimited potential of each individual
Guardians of Enlightenment
the Code of Principled Individualism

#BASES
Dreamweaver
Eudaimonia
The Seeker
The Mind Elevator
Holistic Singularity
Primacy of the One
Temple of Psi
Enchanted Fortress
Chanter's Hideaway
Descartes� Homage
The Philosopher
Enlightened Gardens
The Pleasuredome
Zen
Roof of the World
Quest
Eternal Desire
Carnal Pleasures
Purity of Mind
Transcendent Callings
#END

#WATERBASES
Deep Blue
Garden of Silence
The Wave
Springtide
West Wind
Tranquillity
#END

#BLURB
All this talk of so-called humanitarian principles and societal values indicates what
is to be avoided at all costs. For there is nothing more than the one, the individual
and her quest for perfection, her desire for what is within. And, here, no man may
tell her otherwise, no norms may constrain her.
^
^ -- The Seekers, Collected Works
^ "Thoughts on the Evolution and Devolution of Humanity"


#DATALINKS1
^LEADER: {Lady Morgaine}
^BACKGROUND: {Unknown}
^AGENDA: {Primacy of the Individual, Quest for Enlightenment}
^TECH: {Industrial Base}
^

#DATALINKS2
^-2 GROWTH: {Individual quest for Enlightenment}
^-2 POLICE: {No military organization}
^+1 PROBE: {Lack of central network}
^+1 PLANET: {Self-perfection extends to Planet}
^+1 EFFIC: {Nonexistence of bureaucracy}
^+20% Psi: {Psi as requisite for total self-perfection}
^Needs HAB COMPLEX for bases to exceed size 4: {"Nirvana" requires a certain solitude}
^Any social engineering choice that limits individual expression is taboo.
^{May not use Thought Control. Social engineering choices limiting individuality are penalized.}
^Immune to negative effects of Eudaimonic: the self-perfected individual as the source and destination

#FACTIONTRUCE
#xs 440
#caption $CAPTION7
"This collectivist debauchery siphons the spirit and denudes the mind, $NAME1.
In peace we shall achieve perfection, we pledge Blood Truce."

"By all means, an enlightened society is the oldest quest of humanity itself."
"Nonsense, $NAME3, those that "seek" shall find destruction, lest your babbling infect
all of humanity!"

#FACTIONTREATY
#xs 440
#caption $CAPTION7
"The quest for human perfection and the realization of individual enlgihtenment can
only benefit humanity as a whole. Let us sign a Treaty of Friendhsip to affirm our
common vision."

"Agreed, $NAME3."
"I must decline, this talk of "individualism" and "perfection" is a shallow ruse to
subvert humanity."


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Pinko34 posted 06-10-99 05:55 PM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for Pinko34    
Where do you go to make a new faction if i have v3.0
dinoman posted 06-14-99 11:10 AM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for dinoman    
What's their starting tech?
And also, you never put in the population limit.
korn469 posted 06-18-99 11:26 AM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for korn469  Click Here to Email korn469     
Giant

you didn't add a tech in the place where it reads for techs, and they seem a little weak they are not really conquering faction or a builder faction, but they have the potential for being awsome with the green rush. have you let the computer play them? what exactly does it do the A.I. when you set their agenda/aversion as Future societies?

korn469

Giant posted 06-21-99 04:39 AM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for Giant    
The datalinks blurb that references Industrial Base is in error. The faction gets no starting tech. The population limits are in, re-read the first few lines As to the faction not being either builder or conqueror, right. That's the point. You can do either marginally but neither amzingly well. One of the motivations to create the Seekers was to debunk the claims that they can conquer all by MY 2300 or so. Not that this is impossible (with the Seekers probably impossible though) but it would be highly unlikely and require a certain kind of map. Also, several factions are to easy to beat, some natural conquerors, etc. So we know that all factions are not created equal and that some are downright terrible (Morgan, esp. when played by AI). The Seekers is meant to be a challenge (can't beleive I'm the only one who thinks simngle player is too easy at times) to play while still fitting into the game. Has anyone actaully playtested other non-standard factions?
Giant posted 06-21-99 04:51 AM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for Giant    
As to the AI playing them: Well, it's ok. Morgaine likes to ally with the Hive which should be pretty impossible when you think of their respective visions. But, then again, while playing the Hive, Lal (seething) likes to ally with myself Go figure. In any event, the AI does passable, uses mindworms etc... I've noticed no ill-effect with using a future society as a goal. The pity is having to use GROWTH as a goal. But it was the only satisfactory solution I could find.
korn469 posted 06-21-99 07:29 AM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for korn469  Click Here to Email korn469     
Giant

boy am i glad you asked "has anyone else actually play tested non-standard factions" cuz do i have an answer for you, Yes! i am currently making two factions that are arch rivals the RoE and CSSR. no one ever likes looks in my thread but they are missing out. i am still tweaking my factions and play testing them. they are a bit on the strong side but not too much. and i still haven't figured out if it's possible or your factions to have two aversions, i still haven't got it to work yet. if anyone knows i'd appreciate it very much

korn469

p.s. her's the back ground for my factions

based on a dark vision of earth where the cold war doesn't end and a reaganesq america begins preperations to fight and win WW3 against a powerful Soviet union. Western europe is more or less subjugated by an increasingly militaristic american which then renames itself the Republic of Earth (RoE) the soviet union is justifiably afraid of an all out invasion and continues to arm itself for the inevitable final showdown with RoE forces. the UN with strong leadership from the neutral countries especially in the newly emerging republics from africa, and non Soviet asia, and support from south america (which is torn apart from RoE/USSR faceoff) takes it upon themselves to launch the Colonization effort of Alpha Centauri. years after the Unity is launched RoE and USSR begin a new space race to colonize Alpha Centauri. the RoE organizes an expeditionary force whose objective is to bring the colonist on Alpha Centauri under the power of the RoE. The USSR effort is more of a colonization effort but h ultimate plan is for Soviet forces to overrun Chiron. they launch on the eve of world war three on earth. and so the conflict of the cold war takes to the stars.
if i ever come to grips with the scenario editor i am going to do a scenario with them

korn469 posted 06-21-99 07:35 AM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for korn469  Click Here to Email korn469     
;
; Sid Meier's ALPHA CENTAURI
;
; FACTION FILE: CSSR
;
; Copyright (c) 1997, 1998 by Firaxis Games, Inc.
;
; ALPHA CENTAURI reads the rules of the game from this file at
; startup. Feel free, at your own risk, to experiment with editing
; this file. We recommend you make a backup copy of the original.
;
#PEACE
Chiron Soviet Socialist Republic, The Communist, CSSR, M, 1, Gromeynkov, M, 1, 1, 1, 0, 1,
TECH, PlaNets, POPULATION, -2, FACILITY, 23, DRONE, 3, ROBUST, EFFIC, PENALTY, Democratic, HURRY, 200, RESEARCH, 2, TECHCOST, 85, SOCIAL, ++INDUSTRY, SOCIAL, +SUPPORT, SOCIAL, ---ECONOMY
Economics, Planned, INDUSTRY
Economics, Free Market, nil
Economics, Green, nil
Soviet, Soviet,
Hicks, Apone, Ferrograd
Premier, crafty, devious, self-sacrificing, lethargic,
Inhumane tyrant
encourage egalitarianism
replace the corrupt capitalist system with the equality of communism
spreading your totalitarianism across the Planet
spreading his totalitarianism across the Planet
force us all to submit to your totalitarian regime
overseeing a massive military build up
overseeing a massive military build up
brutally repressing my citizens
military preparations, M2
communist revolution, M2
totalitarian rules?, M2
reparation, M1
caring for the people
the People's Army of Soviet Chiron
the Communist Party of Chiron

#BASES
Moskova
Krasnogorsk
Konakova
Tula
Serpuchov
Kirov
Ryazan
Voronez
Augustgrad
Kursk
Priozersk
Brjansk
Minsk
Cosmograd
Kondrovo
Dmitrov
Zarajsk
Ramenskoje
Tunguska
Sosnovo
Troika
Obinsk
Cechov
Aleksin
Korablino
Novomskovsk
Sukhinici
Suvorov
Skuratovski
Uzlovaja
Volovo
Tovarkovski
Krasnoye
Lipeck
#END

#WATERBASES
Torzoc
Kotly
Kernova
Sestroretsk
Petrodvorec
Zelnogorsk
Promorsk
Zaporozskopje
#END

#BLURB
^ Our most pressing concern is the rapid expansion of our industrial base.
A great threat to our entire system is the RoE military buildup. The have spent
massive amounts on a research program to provide an exponential increase to
their armed forces. The only way to preserve our system from their agression is
to over the next five years build roughly 300% more farms, mines, solar collectors
and factories so that we may in turn have adequate resources to defend ourselves.
^
^ -- Premier Alexi Gromeynkov,
^ "The First Five Year Plan"

#DATALINKS1
^LEADER: {Premier Alexi Gromeynkov}
^BACKGROUND: {Earth, Candidate Member of the Politburo}
^AGENDA: {Spread of communism}
^TECH: {Planetary Networks}
^

#DATALINKS2
^+1 SUPPORT: {Military buildup.}
^+2 INDUSTRY: {State focus on heavy industry.}
^-3 ECONOMY: {Lack of emphasis on consumer goods.}
^Five Year Plan: {Cost double to hurry production}
^Unwieldy bureaucracy: {Support Penalty Doubled under democratic government}
^Mass purges by secret police: {Free Punishment Sphere in every base}
^Collective Housing: {May exceed HAB COMPLEX requirments by 2}
^{May not use Free Market Economics.}

#FACTIONTRUCE
#xs 440
#caption $CAPTION7
"Comrad $NAME1, the CSSR wishes only to provide for the security of
our people. Let us sign a blood truce."

"This useless bloodshed solves nothing. We will accept the armistice"
"$NAME3 we will finally put an end to your totalitarian regime"

#FACTIONTREATY
#xs 440
#caption $CAPTION7
"$TITLE0 $NAME1, ."

"Of course comrad. Long live the revolution!"
"I cannot ally myself with an empire bent on world domination."


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korn469 posted 06-21-99 07:38 AM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for korn469  Click Here to Email korn469     
;
; Sid Meier's ALPHA CENTAURI
;
; FACTION FILE: RoE
;
; Copyright (c) 1997, 1998 by Firaxis Games, Inc.
;
; ALPHA CENTAURI reads the rules of the game from this file at
; startup. Feel free, at your own risk, to experiment with editing
; this file. We recommend you make a backup copy of the original.
;
#SPARTANS
Republic of Earth, The Imperialist, RoE, M, 1, Frost, M, 1, 1, 1, 1, 0,
TECH, Mobile, TECH, Physic, POPULATION, 2, FACILITY, 3, DRONE, 4, ROBUST, POLICE, SOCIAL, +ECONOMY, SOCIAL, ++INDUSTRY, SOCIAL , --GROWTH
Economics, Free Market, ECONOMY
Economics, Planned, nil, Green, nil
RoE, RoE,
Hudson, Burke, Hudson's Point
General, tenacious, evil, mighty, genocidal
Depraved warcriminal
guard aginst agression
to protect the free world from agression
enslaving us all under the corrupt rule of his evil empire
enslaving us all under the corrupt rule of your evil empire
amass enough weapons to destroy the planet
secretly plotting to annihilate us all
secretly plotting to annihilate us all
having dreams of global domination
imperialistic policies, M2
security inititives, M2
fascist policies, M2
indemnity, M1
protecting humankind
the RoE Armed Forces
the RoE Constitution

#BASES
Fort Reagan
Fort Mckinnley
Fort Harding
Fort Nixon
Fort Kennedy
Fort McNamara
Fort Herbert
Fort Kurstan
Fort Hamilton
Fort McPherson
Fort Hunnley
Fort Truman
Fort Eiferson
Fort Washington
Fort Sullen
Fort Harrison
Fort Theodor
Fort Staunton
Fort Steward
Fort Tiberson
Trinity
New Los Alamos
Garland Proving Ground
RoE Energy Grid
RoE Space Applications
RoE Bioweapons Research
RoE VX-t Storage
RoE Orbital Facilities
RoE Weapons Testing
RoE Fusion Applications
RoE Communications Grid
RoE Defense Grid
RoE Intelligence Grid
Outpost 659
Outpost 161
Outpost 454
Outpost 745
#END

#WATERBASES
Hustonis
Port Arthur
Port Haverston
Tarsonis
Port Tarkin
Sardonis
Aeris
#END

#BLURB
^ As I speak to you today I can see ominous clouds on the horizon. Even as we look
to freedom others are embracing repression. As we all hope for peace others are preparing
for war. As I speak to you today I can tell you that a powerful enemy is plotting against you.
However, as I speak to you today, I can reassure you that we will not back down when threatened
with Soviet agression. Eventhough the enemy is strong, I can tell you today that we are
stronger. Freedom shall triumph! And I can tell you today, we will not lose.
^
^ -- General Aidan Frost,
^ "State of Chiron Address"

#DATALINKS1
^LEADER: {General Aidan Frost}
^BACKGROUND: {Earth, RoE Expeditionary Force Commander}
^AGENDA: {Triumph over communist agression}
^TECH: {Applied Physics, Mobility}
^

#DATALINKS2
^+1 ECONOMY: {highly developed economy}
^+2 INDUSTRY: {Superior manufactoring techniques}
^-2 GROWTH: {poorly prepared to colonize Chiron}
^Prefab Bases: {Free RECYCLING TANKS at each base but needs a HAB COMPLEX to exceed size 5}
^Faith in the market: {police penalty reduced under free market}
^Extra DRONE for every four citizens {(pressures of materialistic society)}
^{May not use Planned Economics.}

#FACTIONTRUCE
#xs 440
#caption $CAPTION7
"$NAME1, either agree to a blood truce immediatly,
or you will discover that our reputation for ruthlessness is well deserved."

"Yes, we agree to honor a temporary Cease-fire."
"Enough of your treachery $NAME3! This time I plan to exterminate you once and for all!"

#FACTIONTREATY
#xs 440
#caption $CAPTION7
"$TITLE0 $NAME1, as the guardian of the free world we seek to
establish diplomatic and economic relations with your faction. I propose
you agree to the generous terms of our Treaty of Friendship."

"Of course, lets open our markets."
"I think not, reports confirm your plans to forcibly subjugate us."


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korn469 posted 06-21-99 07:39 AM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for korn469  Click Here to Email korn469     
sorry for clogging your thread but my ideas need to get out
dinoman posted 06-21-99 04:49 PM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for dinoman    
No offense korn, but haven't you spread your ideas far enough? What is this, the third topic you have posted the RoE and CSSR on? Oh, well. They are interesting factions.

"Has anyone actaully playtested other non-standard factions?"

I have. The least standard faction of all, the Hacker Alliance. It's advantages are awesome, it's disadvantages are terrible. I have play-tested it, and it is balanced. And the AI is better at it than the UoP.

#HACK
Hacker Alliance, The Hacker, Alliance, M, 1, Bryan, M, -1, 0, 1, 0, 1,
TECH, Poly, SOCIAL, +++RESEARCH, SOCIAL, ++PROBE, SOCIAL, ---POLICE, SOCIAL, --MORALE, SHARETECH, 3, DRONE, 3
Values, Knowledge, RESEARCH
Politcs, Fundamentalist, nil
Alliance, Alliance,
Julia, Bond, Julia-Net
Cyber-Consul, ingenious, psychotic, cyber-skilled, insane
continue our quest into cyberspace
to contuniue our quest of exploration and expansion into cyberspace
insanely taking over various systems which should not be tampered with
insanely taking over various systems which should not be tampered with
letting the machines run wild
dreaming up new ways to replace humans with machines
dreaming up new ways to replace humans
creating unethical technology
unspeakable tech, M2
computer skills, M1
cyber-love, M1
research grant, M1
pushing the boundaries of computers
Hacking Rovers
Standard Hacking Procedures

#BASES
Hacker-Net Central
Cyber-Net 1
www.HackerCity.html
CompNet of Planet
Planetary Archives
Razvitia Progress Base
Hackergrad
New Los Angeles
Firewall
New New York
Planetary Net Alpha
CodeRise
Hope in the Code
JavaScriptville
HTML City
New Net
Zeta Chip
MicroRise
SciNet
EntertainNet
WeatherNet
Computer Monitoring Station
Silicon Prospect
Mir II
PlanetNet
HackerNet
HardwareNet
Tech Center
#END

#WATERBASES
MarineNet
WaterNet
OceanNet
HydroNet
AquaNet
H2O
#END

#BLURB
Information. Every second it zips back and forth and back
and forth across cyberspace. Millions upon billions of
0s and 1s, just waiting for someone with the right tools...
to come and take a look.
^
^ -- Cyber-Consul Bryan Weaver,
^ "Planet: The Ultimate Hacking Ground"

#DATALINKS1
^LEADER: {Cyber-Consul Bryan Weaver}
^BACKGROUND: {"The Death Angels" Hacker Gang, Unity Computer Officer}
^AGENDA: {Protection of the domain of Cyberspace, freedom to hack.}
^TECH: {Polymorphic Software}
^

#DATALINKS2
^+3 RESEARCH: {Hacking Skills}
^+2 PROBE: {Skilled at defending computer systems}
^-3 POLICE: {Freedom loving}
^-2 MORALE: {Hackers don't like to get killed}
^Automatically gets any tech known to 3 other Factions, because of skill in hacking.
^+1 DRONE for every three citizens {(some people just aren't good with computers)}
^{May not use Fundamentalist Politics.}


#FACTIONTRUCE
#xs 440
#caption $CAPTION7
"Call off your dogs, $NAME1. I am ready to pledge Blood Truce
if you will allow us to continue advancing computer technology."

"Very well, but do not provoke me further."
"No, $NAME3. All you want to do is hack into our systems."

#FACTIONTREATY
#xs 440
#caption $CAPTION7
"We do not want to fight, $TITLE0 $NAME1. Will you sign
a Treaty of Friendship and leave us to develop Cyberspace?"

"Of course. We must certainly strive to win freedom everywhere."
"No. I don't want you stealing any of my research during peace, $NAME3."

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korn469 posted 06-21-99 04:52 PM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for korn469  Click Here to Email korn469     
giant

sorry!

korn469

korn469 posted 06-21-99 04:55 PM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for korn469  Click Here to Email korn469     
with the hacker alliance isn't the drone for every three people a killer? especially without the option of using police. on transend how do you fend off drones once your cities get around size 7?

korn469

Giant posted 06-23-99 03:48 AM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for Giant    
Hmm, I'm used to the highjacking you mentioned. But, IMHO, the Hackers and the Cold War reprise factions are out of place. My intent was to come up with a faction that was not silly (like many we've seen here), not ported from CivII (e.g., the two factions in this thread that are throwbacks to the US and Russia) but was/is somewhat orignal (Hacker's are just another University...). That's the rub. I think it obvious that, after a while of playing, the standard factions are a bit too easy. Of course, this depends on your style of play. In any event, the Seekers are, hopefully, a novel challenge and not a rehash or what we have already. Just my 2 Pfennige...

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