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(RP) Guardian Counsel
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| Author | Topic: (RP) Guardian Counsel |
| Ronin_54 |
posted 05-07-99 02:47 AM ET  
Greetings. We have been away for a long time. We never planned to return, but we have no choice. Just after we left our bases, we were attacked by a large force. We lost many ships, only WhiteStar and one of its escorts survived. The Guardian of Life has been captured. We do not know who did this, but we have some idees. One of our missing ships is the escort Dreadnought. We found out that the Chancellor is flying that ship. Could you explain this, chancellor? Also, we've seen that you are still at war with the shadows. Pity. I'm afraid we cannot assist you right now, because of several problems. One of them is Korian. We have no clue who we can thrust right know. So it like to call on the help of my former friends Dehlan and JT. Please respond. So speaks the Counsel. High Commander Ronin |
| Ronin_54 |
posted 05-08-99 05:24 AM ET
Everyone seems to be concerned about stats now. I've been away for to long... If it is neccasary for me to show my stats, just ask. Ronin |
| Chancellor AoYoS |
posted 05-08-99 12:41 PM ET
As I said before Ronin, we built this ship. It is nothing like the Dreadnoughts you possessed. Chancellor AoYoS |
| Marshall Xix |
posted 05-08-99 12:44 PM ET
Ah, the fabled Guradians have once again arrived. No bother, our rules apply to you as they do to any other faction. Any ships within 1 parsec of Confederate Space will be destroyed. Marshall Xix of the Quirat Confederacy |
| Chancellor AoYoS |
posted 05-08-99 12:46 PM ET
Ah, I remember now Ronin. You were the race we attacked onn the Outer Rim during the War of Centaurian Ressurection with the help of the Truxians and Acheans. We had the plan for the Dreadnoughts, but they were lost when we became the Combine. Chancellor AoYoS |
| JT 3 |
posted 05-08-99 06:04 PM ET
OOC: I am now JT3, due to Forum database problems. IC Dehlan is gone. Killed by the Shadows. AoYoS built a ship he named the Dreadnought. It was not yours, as I saw it being built myself. We are now the United Planets of Knowledge. I am President. The UPK has signed a treaty with the Shadows. Although I was a bit upset by the Council disbansion(is that a word?), I will offer a Pact. Also, I invite you to join the AOP. |
| Ronin_54 |
posted 05-09-99 04:38 AM ET
To clear things up a bit chancellor: we are NOT a different race! We represent many races. Some of us are Shadows (including my second in command and me), some of us are human (our comm officer), and some of us are from one of the Ancient races (please don't ask questions about them). I will respect the Marshals territory, and will not enter his space, or approach it. Chancellor, Dreadnought was a single ship, not a ships class! It was one of WhiteStar's escorts. Since you are the one who attacked us, we have no other choiche then to declare you as one of our enemys. I am not happy about the fact, since you are an member of the AOP, and I hoped to remain in peace with them. But you leave me no choice. Ronin out. High Commander Ronin |
| JT 3 |
posted 05-09-99 07:49 AM ET
DANGIT I HAVE SAID THIS SO MANY TIMES! Thd Dreadnought the Chancellor had was one he built! He _named_ it the Dreadnought! I saw it being built myself! |
| JT 3 |
posted 05-09-99 07:50 AM ET
Doh! I forgot the traditional "I am not really that mad I just like writing in capital letters." Sorry. |
| JT 3 |
posted 05-09-99 08:07 AM ET
Well, as I just read on another thread, any Faction who is eligible for Guardianship must post their policies and SE Choices. Here goes: Republicracy: This is a combonation of a Republic and Democracy. Each of our planets is basicly self-governing. But, they are still part of the UPK and they still vote. The people on a planet vote, and the majority of that planet wins. So, if a planet votes 90% for something, that planet is voting YEA. Then, all the planet votes are added up, and the majority wins. Militaristicly, I allow ships to cross my borders as soon as they power down their shields and weapons. Then, I have an armed escort follow them to wherever their destination is. |
| Chancellor AoYoS |
posted 05-09-99 10:12 AM ET
As I remembered during the War, we attacked different races on the Outer Rim only identified as Guardians. Since we claimed no prisoners we did not know your physical makeup. Forgive us for this error. The Dreadnought was built by my race. It is completely different than your ships. I will grant you passage into our territory to see it if you like. Chancellor AoYoS |
| Chancellor AoYoS |
posted 05-09-99 10:14 AM ET
As you see are race, are metamorphing into Shadows because of our constant need to evolve. We hope that after our evolution our races can start all over. Chancellor AoYoS |
| JT 3 |
posted 05-09-99 11:25 AM ET
Ah. So, the war was against others. Now, maybe you can get along. |
| Ronin_54 |
posted 05-09-99 03:08 PM ET
Very well. Also, JT, if you want to join the Guardians again, I would be very pleased. There is only one major problem: you are not allowed to trade any tech you find in our Guardian Databases. We posses technique far beyond the tech founs in this area. Not that we are stronger (I'm sometimes amazed by some of your sicoveries), but it can become very dangerous if it falls in the wrong hands. If you discover a new tech yourself, you will be allowed to trade it, but only if it is not a threat to our goals. |
| Ronin_54 |
posted 05-09-99 03:11 PM ET
Our goals are very simple: 1)To destroy the Evil that threatens the existance of every single specie. 2)To create a better enviroment for our people, to let every specie here to live apart from the High Plane, who have surpressed us for to long now. We do not worship any gods, altough we have a protector: the Goddess Ammu. But she lives with us on the same level. We do not have to obey her. She is just one of our friends. High Commander Ronin |
| President Korian |
posted 05-09-99 05:52 PM ET
Since the Guardians are being reformed, our faction would be more than interested in joining again. Here are our SCs: Democracy: Every registered citizen of the FSD has a node outlet operational at all times. During elections for Planetary Governor, Senator, and Lord, every citizen is required to vote from their outlet. If a bill has been passed by all 3 Houses, and I have signed, it then requires at least 45% of the population to vote YEA on the bill. Green: In the past, there have been many economical disasters in the FSD, and our present economy reflects our dedication to reparing that damage. This sector of our SC is constantly in fluxuation. Knowledge: A good education is everything. Eudaimonic: Every citizen must fulfill their goals and acheive their full potential to be truly happy, and this is how it is acheived. None of these are open to change at the moment. I would like to see your "stats" Ronin. |
| Ambassador Collins |
posted 05-09-99 05:56 PM ET
The USCP would like to join. |
| JT 3 |
posted 05-09-99 08:18 PM ET
USCP?! AHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Ronin, Collins is the leader of the Brotherhood. They are a race of Cyborgs. They first came and threatened to destroy us. Since then, they have become more peaceful, but have attcked me once.(That was when Collins was temporarily crazy) |
| JT 3 |
posted 05-09-99 08:20 PM ET
The USCP does not exist any more. I have come to a decision. The UPK will be joining the Guardians as the Guardians of Knowledge. We will not trade any Guardian tech unless given permission. I thank you, Ronin, for letting me rejoin. |
| Chancellor AoYoS |
posted 05-09-99 08:23 PM ET
If you would permit us, the {U<S>A} would like to enter. We want peace with fellow Shadows. Chancellor AoYoS |
| Chancellor AoYoS |
posted 05-09-99 08:26 PM ET
If I am permitted to enter, I would like to become the Guardian of Evolution. |
| Ronin_54 |
posted 05-10-99 01:34 PM ET
The Guardian Counsel is returning once again... JT, Korian, you are allowed to enter the Counsel again. Be sure to read some of my history on board of the White Star. I am glad to see you again... My SE's (for so far possible since we are nor really based on SMAC) Frontier/Democratic: we are only small groups, who do not really need goverments. We all follow the ways of Ammu. We are partially Democratic, but if I decide that something is neccasary, if have the power to do so. Simple/Green: same story. We do not really use economy because we are not used to trade, or develop idustries. But in the rare cases we do so, we follow the Green economics route, in order to prevent any unneccasary damage being done. Knowledge: not really true, since we do not do much research lately, but all the others do not comply... Eudaimonic: this comes closest to what we are now... |
| Ronin_54 |
posted 05-10-99 01:37 PM ET
Collins is ruled out, about the Chancellor we will have to vote. If all vote YEA the Chancellor will be allowed into the counsel. I vote YEA, because I believe we can use every help we can get. Of course, the Chancellor will have to learn to act as an Guardian. But we will teach him. Ronin out. High Commander Ronin |
| Chancellor AoYoS |
posted 05-10-99 05:06 PM ET
We have learned much by becoming Shadows. We will endeavor to make our guardianship the best that we can possibly do. OOC: Korian will vote NEA. Ronin as you have read in ealrier posts we havent got along well since I first came. Has to do with ignorance on BOTH parts. |
| Ronin_54 |
posted 05-11-99 10:26 AM ET
I assume you have seen what has become of the Confederates, Chancellor... This is the side-effect we have talked to you about. BUt we shall assist you to make sure this will not happen to you. Also, Guardian Korian, please accept the Chancellor as an Guardian. We believe he can be thrusted, and we can use any help we can get, especially since the Confederaates joined the Shadows... We need to get the Guardians back to the full strenght of Eight. High Commander Ronin |
| President Korian |
posted 05-11-99 03:32 PM ET
If Collins is allowed in I will accept the Chancellor. If Collins is not allowed, my vote for the Chancellor is NEA. |
| JT 3 |
posted 05-11-99 05:04 PM ET
I vote ABSTAIN for the Chancellor. He is one of my friends, but he hasn't been around for very long(in OOC time). I will let the others decide. Also, I vote NEA for Collins. The Collins-Korian duo seems to push everyone else around a lot. |
| Ronin_54 |
posted 05-13-99 05:19 AM ET
So there is one YEA, one NEA, and one ABSTAIN. This places me for a difficult choice... Since I am the oldest Guardian, I could still allow the Chancellor to join, but this wouldn't be fair... If I change my vote for Collins in YEA, we have two YEA's for Collins and one NEA, but we also have two YEA's for the Chancellor... This is a difficult choice: And I want the Chancellor to join, and Collins not... JT, could you please turn your ABSTAIN into a YEA? Altough the Chancellor is fairly new, so was I wenn I started the Guardian Counsel. But I was immediatly thrusted... A confused Ronin... |
| President Korian |
posted 05-13-99 07:24 AM ET
Ronin, I thought it had to be unanimous to accept a new Guardian. You even said "If ALL vote YEA the Chancellor will be allowed into the counsel." That implies if 1 person votes NEA they are not allowed in. So, it's either Collins and Chancellor or neither. |
| JT 3 |
posted 05-13-99 02:09 PM ET
Alright, I vote YEA. But, I still vote NEA for Collins. |
| Galen |
posted 05-13-99 08:01 PM ET
I would like to join as the Guardian of the Mind (as I was before) My SEs are: Democratic Aristocracy: Everyone votes, only those with PhDs ect can rule and can only hold that office once to avoid giving into every whim of the ignorant. Green: The preservation of resources is essential to prolonged survival, as is population control. Knowledge: AqKnow (Union for the Aquisition of Knowledge) Cybernetic: Computers are integrated as much as possible into our soceity. Director Galen |
| JT 3 |
posted 05-13-99 08:05 PM ET
I vote YEA on Galen. |
| Ronin_54 |
posted 05-15-99 03:22 AM ET
Allright, forget about what I said. The majority of the votes will have to be yea for someone to enter. I dislike the possibiloty that someone could block every action we want to take. So, let's revote. |
| JT 3 |
posted 05-15-99 02:59 PM ET
Chancellor: YEA Galen: YEA Collins: NEA |
| God Emperor Eccles V |
posted 05-16-99 07:43 AM ET
Can I join,it would be advantagous for my foreign policy. Social Choices Despotism: Computerised Tyranny, but able people are allowed their freedom, so empirical thought is allowed. The admin structure is the same as the social structure, their is always somebody of a better class watching you, and reporting all the way back to the emperor Planned: Not in the socialist sense, the means of production are controled by me and administrated by the AI Entity, this means their is never a mis-match of supply and demand. Knowledge: The Upper classes are not retrovirally engineered and so have free time to research and develop new method of oppression. Genetically Engineered Society |
| President Korian |
posted 05-16-99 10:41 AM ET
My faction is withdrawing from the Guardian Council. The Council is eventually going to become a mere extension of the AoP, and it is bringing us further away from our allies and towards our enemies. |
| JT 3 |
posted 05-16-99 10:43 AM ET
Eccles, that is more of a Feudalistic society. I don't understand how you can value knowledge with that kind of society, but if works, okay. |
| God Emperor Eccles V |
posted 05-16-99 03:02 PM ET
It is not feudal. There is more societal movement. (i.e decent middle class people might be let into the Upper Party). Except for the Engineered Workers, they are useless anyway. |
| JT 3 |
posted 05-16-99 07:23 PM ET
Still, the way it is set up is feudal, with the emperor ruling over barons that rule over aristocrats that rule over the middle class, etc. I'm not going to argue your position on feudalism about this. You have full right to think differently than me. |
| Ronin_54 |
posted 05-17-99 01:08 PM ET
Governor Korian, we are not an extension of the AoP, and will never become one. We are totally independant. We do not understand how you ever came up with the idea. Altough JT is an member of the AoP, he is only one person. Since both of us are not alligned to the AoP, they will never be able to get power over us (no offence to JT). High Commander Ronin |
| President Korian |
posted 05-18-99 07:37 PM ET
Well, in a matter of time, there would only be 2 Guardians not belonging to the AoP, (you and I.) |
| Dehlan |
posted 05-18-99 09:25 PM ET
Hello friends... As I said to the guardian council in another room, I have been ressurected. The details are too hard to explain right now... Anyway, could someone fill me in? -Acidimician Prokhor Dehlan, I have returned |
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