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Governor Korian posted 04-17-99 08:21 PM ET   Click Here to See the Profile for Governor Korian  
*OOC*
Since the old one died, I thought it would be a good idea to make a new UN thread, where we will discuss IC issues that have to do with all factions.
Ambassador Collins posted 04-17-99 08:40 PM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for Ambassador Collins    
I concur.
JT 3 posted 04-17-99 08:48 PM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for JT 3    
First issue: Winston and the Destiny. Galen says he either takes the three planets and leaves Draconia2, or he takes one planet and stays.

Which one?

Or should we not vote on this?

Governor Korian posted 04-17-99 09:12 PM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for Governor Korian    
I do think we should vote. I vote for Winston. If Galen wants him to rescind his claim, he needs to give Winston something in return.

Governor Korian of the Federated States of Humanity

Ambassador Collins posted 04-17-99 09:13 PM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for Ambassador Collins    
I support Winston, as he was there first.
Ambassador Winston posted 04-17-99 09:25 PM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for Ambassador Winston  Click Here to Email Ambassador Winston     
I, naturally, support the Alliance of Free People.

-Ambassador Winston
The Alliance of Free Peoples
Ambassador to Centauri Space

JT 3 posted 04-17-99 10:39 PM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for JT 3    
I vote for Winston.
Galen posted 04-18-99 12:44 AM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for Galen  Click Here to Email Galen     
I AM giving Winston something in return. I am giving another planet (found nearby) and a continued presence on Dracona 2. What more do you want?
Let me explain my reasoning:

1. My colonists far outnumber Winston's.
2. My colonists are more than 1 planet can bear.
3. Winston's colonists fit on 1 world quite nicely.
4. Winston would have extra space to put his Dracona 2 people on if he has 3 planets.
5. I would need to move my colinists, in part, somewhere else. Dracona 2 would be ideal for them. EXCEPT that Winston has bases there which I graciously granted space.

The conclusion makes sense. Simple really.

Of course I vote for AqKnow here.

Galen
AqKnow

God Emperor Eccles V posted 04-18-99 09:05 AM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for God Emperor Eccles V  Click Here to Email God Emperor Eccles V     
We need to make a list of atrocites, so I know which ones to commit.

I suggest
Mass Genocide
Flavored Tacyhons
Nerve Stapling
Mass Execution
Political Imprisonment
Religious oppression

I have done all of these, so they must be evil.

JT 3 posted 04-18-99 09:20 AM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for JT 3    
Uhhhh.... yeah. Okay, I think those should be atrocities. Weird way of starting them though(Okay, since I've commited all these, they should be atrocities! Someone declare war on me!).
Kestril posted 04-18-99 10:20 AM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for Kestril  Click Here to Email Kestril     
What is the term they use in the Kosovo scene? Ethnic cleansing? Yes, its so much more polite than genocide - we should all use it more often.

I dont really see Political Imprisonment as an 'atrocity' - it doesnt have the same 'Oh my god - how could they do that!' kind of feel...

What are flavoured tachyons? Bloody Trek!

Hmm - how about genetic experimentation? Hmmm, torture, certainly...

Usage of Nuclear, Biological or Chemical weapons either on external or internal enemies (ie the submission gases/drugs or whatever that Korian hinted at)

JT 3 posted 04-18-99 11:32 AM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for JT 3    
Flavored Tachyons? I could explain it in detail, but I don't have time. They basicly blow up entire moons and other big things with a few drops. If used enough, it will cause a chain reaction which could destroy the entire galaxy. Enough for an atrocity, no?
Galen posted 04-18-99 08:07 PM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for Galen  Click Here to Email Galen     
I will go over the Atrocities, with some of my own added, and comment on them.

Mass Genocide-YES! This is Ethnic Cleansing, so clear that, Ethnic Cleansing sounds a LITTLE better. If the Milsovec, Hubert (OOC: This is an American I made up, who instigates a large eugenics/religious inquisition program with mass killings in 2041, Lal hints at something like this), Hitler and Stalin commited Atrocities, then it is.
Flavored Tacyhons-Yes, there was a vote on this already (on another thread from a while back).
Nerve Stapling-Yes, mind control is BAD!
Mass Execution-Like genocide only non-discriminate. Yes.
Political Imprisonment-Nah, China got away with it, America got away with it, so should we. I mean, do you want to make it no fun to be TC or Police?
Religious oppression-No. What would the religious fanatics do? Though Hubert and Torqumandoua (sp?) were bad, who can say that noone can be a bunch of Fundamentalist idoits. I personally would vote yes on this, but I feel that it would hurt other Factions too much (make the game not fun).
Ethnic Cleansing-See genocide
Genetic Experimentation-NO! NO, NO, NO! How would the cure for AIDs have come about? The Cloning vats? Logevity Vaccine? Many of my researchers are doing genetic experimentation, of course humans don't get tested until we are almost ABSOULUTELY sure it is safe. I am sure many of you, possibily with the exception of those primatives under Karok, are genetically enhanced.
Nuclear Weapons-Yes, they are like PBs
Chemical Weapons-Yes, see above.
Biological Weapons-Yes, see above.
Mind Control Drugs on others-Yes, it is like Chem or Bio Weapons almost, only better.
Mind Control Drugs on your people-No, this is the foundation of TC soceities.

And mine:

Sabatoging Research-Knowledge is the greatest thing a human may have, to destroy it is a prime evil.
Psi Weapons-They are like Mind Control.
DimTears-Worse than PBs
PBs-Self-explanitory
Forced Assimilation-Like Nerve Stapeling.
Usage of superweapons like the Star destroyer from Star Wars or Planet Eater from ST:TOS-Like DimTears.
Forced De-Assimilation-The logical consequence of forced assimilation.

What do you think?

JT 3 posted 04-18-99 08:15 PM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for JT 3    
Dimtears aren't atrocities!

Psi weapons? Are you nuts? Those aren't atrocities! Come on, those have been used for ages, they can't be atrocities!

Governor Korian posted 04-18-99 08:20 PM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for Governor Korian    
I vote against Forced De-Assimilation, Psi weapons, and Usage of superweapons becoming atrocities. For de-assimilation, what if there was forced assimilation? With psi weapons, I agree with JT, and for superweapons, sometimes you just have to use them.
JT 3 posted 04-18-99 08:25 PM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for JT 3    
Superweapons.... Maybe some special rule? Like you can't use them to start a war?
Governor Korian posted 04-19-99 07:30 AM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for Governor Korian    
Well, if we follow standard prcedure, than we count 5 votes, and 5 have been counted. There were 4 votes for Winston, and 1 for Galen. Therefore, Winston gets to choose which territory he would like to settle.
Galen posted 04-19-99 12:25 PM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for Galen  Click Here to Email Galen     
This matter is between Winston and I, and not everyone else.

Galen
AqKnow

Ambassador Collins posted 04-19-99 06:34 PM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for Ambassador Collins    
Galen:

You should have said something BEFORE you got your butt whoped in the vote!!!

JT 3 posted 04-19-99 06:38 PM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for JT 3    
Yeah, that's probably true. So, should the vote stand, or should we let Galen and Winston argue for the rest of their multi-centurial lives? Probably let the vote decide. Which means, Winston can decide to leave Dracona 2 and take the 3-planet system, or stay on Dracona 2 and take the 1-planet system.
AoYoS posted 04-19-99 06:43 PM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for AoYoS  Click Here to Email AoYoS     
Greetings from the Council of Larvae and First Centricate AoYoS.

We are requesting a meeting with all Human faction leaders to discuss possible ceasefire between you and the Acheans. Also requesting that you abide by our territory and Korian withdraw his fleet from aeound our territory.

We also wish to meet with all human leaders to possibly discuss your entrance into the Herculean Triad, a treaty between us, possibly you, and a neighboring planet in Beta Truix.

"Communique from the Centricate of Herculi"

JT 3 posted 04-19-99 06:48 PM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for JT 3    
Greetings, AoYoS.

First off, I offer a Treaty of Friendship. This will be a preliminary treaty that could later change to a Pact.

Next, I would just like to say that while we are in a war with the Acheans, we are not at war with you(at least everyone but Korian). I ask all human factions to withdraw from Herculean Space.

Also, please explain this Herculean Triad a bit more. And what is the race on Beta Truix? I would like to talk with them.

AoYoS posted 04-19-99 07:11 PM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for AoYoS  Click Here to Email AoYoS     
We accept this Treaty and gladly thank you for appealing to the other factions to leave our space.

The Herculean Triad's member are us and the Truixians. It is a formal economic, diplomatic and military alliance. The Truixians request a meeting with JT 3.
They are in appearance, look like a large praying mantis. They love the arts and are peaceful. They wish to contact you as soon as possible. Since we are allied they help us with any matter needed and as you saw we are bothed tied to the Acheans.


Centricate AoYoS

JT 3 posted 04-19-99 07:21 PM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for JT 3    
I will gladly meet with the Truixians.

Thank you for accepting the treaty.

Please try to appeal to the Acheans for peace with us and the other Factions. I have had over 20 billion of my people killed, which is one fifth of my total population, and we do not want the fighting to continue.

AoYoS posted 04-19-99 07:23 PM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for AoYoS  Click Here to Email AoYoS     
I have spoken with the Acheans, JT 3, Since we have signed a treaty they are offering a ceasefire with your faction, ONLY.

Centricate AoYoS

JT 3 posted 04-19-99 07:26 PM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for JT 3    
I accept. I will release all prisoners-of-war. I will also pull my fleets away from theirs. I ask that they pull away from my space(Proxima Centauri and Omega Prime).
Counsel Karok posted 04-19-99 08:36 PM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for Counsel Karok    
Channel 78:
Origination: The Church
To: UN Council

To opress religion is a sin, to prevent atheism is peity. To control the minds of people to bend them to your Satanic will is sin, to assist them in seeing His Glory is peity. Assimilation to evil is a sin, to end it forcibly is nesseciated by His Will. To alter that which God created, to mess with the human genetic structure, is sin; to stop it is Right.
I support Winston, Gelen would covet his neighbohr's land, he would part with God's Commandments.
Additionally, these ought to be atrocities:
To forsake God, and to not see that God's Will is spread throughout your land.
To take the name of the Lord our God in vain.
To hold council on the Sabbath day.
To kill your's or other's people except when it is God's Will.
To steal from another Faction without God.
To covet what is another Faction's.

Counsel Karok

JT 3 posted 04-19-99 08:40 PM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for JT 3    
OOC
Karok, I know I didn't like being the person who said this in the Alien thing, but.... SHUTTUP! Noone listens to your mindless dribble! Change to some Faction who won't be totally ignored and things will happen.
Ambassador Collins posted 04-19-99 08:52 PM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for Ambassador Collins    
Korak:

Anyone with any intelligence whatsoever is atheist. I have a million facts about how many of the stories in The Bible were formulated.

All of the religions of the world are dogma, but the worst is by far Christianity. I was raised as a Christian, but ever since about 2nd grade I had doubts. I prayed for 4 YEARS for faith, but faith never came. I came to realize that any God willing to die on a cross to save up because he want to be with us should also be willing to grant one person faith. There is no Jesus, God or Holy Spirit. Science will eventually prove all of this.

Death to Religion!!!

Counsel Karok posted 04-20-99 09:47 AM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for Counsel Karok    
This is all OOC:
Actually, I AM agnostic, I just like playing the Beleivers and go overboard. Anyways, I will change my faction soon, since being a Beleiver is not getting anywhere.
JT 3 posted 04-20-99 02:05 PM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for JT 3    
OOC
Obviously.

Maybe you should ba a humanitarian Faction, like Korian? Or maybe a warlike Faction, since it appears Brak has left.

Ambassador Collins posted 04-20-99 02:53 PM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for Ambassador Collins    
Karok:

Thank you!!! All that religious stuff was starting to tick me off.

Galen posted 04-20-99 04:49 PM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for Galen  Click Here to Email Galen     
Ding Dong The Witch is Dead! That was SO annoying! Be a Spartans mabey.
JT 3 posted 04-20-99 04:55 PM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for JT 3    
Hehheh. Nice one, Galen.
Galen posted 04-21-99 04:43 PM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for Galen  Click Here to Email Galen     
Thank you.
JT 3 posted 04-21-99 05:49 PM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for JT 3    
You're welcome.

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