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| Governor Korian |
posted 04-13-99 03:06 PM ET 
A rebel group, based on Luna, has threatened the provincial capitol. They call themselves the True Humans and violently oppose our assimilation to the Brotherhood. Since I was the main force for assimilation in the Governor's Council, the President has assigned me to lead an elite strike force to defeat the rebels. We will update you periodically. Governor Korian of the territory of the Federated States of Democracy on Alpha Centauri |
| Ambassador Winston |
posted 04-13-99 03:13 PM ET
Governor, you connot force members of your faction to be assimilated if they don't wish to be. The Alliance urges you to let these people remain un-assimilated. Do any other factions feel the way we do? -Ambassador Winston |
| Governor Korian |
posted 04-13-99 04:24 PM ET
Yes we can, Winston. And we will, to the survivors. In fact, we have already broken through their outer defences and have almost taken out their leaders. They were suprisingly weak. I wonder why the planetary militia couldn't handle this. What the?!?... |
| JT 3 |
posted 04-13-99 04:35 PM ET
I feel this way. I am assimilated, it does help your body do things better, but there are people in my Faction who don't want to be. Fine. I'm not going to force my people to get something implanted in their body if they do not wish. Do not be this hard on your subjects, Korian. |
| Galen |
posted 04-13-99 04:45 PM ET
We have been in contact with our unassimilated, and have come to an agreement, therefore, we will no longer be one with the rest of the Brotherhood until this agreement has reached it full fruitation. JT, we urge you to assimilate the rest of your people, if not through force then through trickery or comprimise. AqKnow |
| JT 3 |
posted 04-13-99 04:56 PM ET
There are _very_ few who are unassimilated. I do not want to force them to do so, though, as most of them are young. When they grow older, they most certainly will want to, as it helps so much more then. JT3 |
| Governor Korian |
posted 04-13-99 05:46 PM ET
The rebels have captured me and the troops I was leading. They removed all my cybernetic implants and I realized the truth. Before I was assimilated, I was subjected to neurochemical triggers similar to those used in thought control governments that made me beleive in the Brotherhood's cause. After I was assimilated, I was completely under their control. I have agreed to join the rebels and become one of their leaders. We have declared war on the FSD, but not on the other factions in the Brotherhood. I ask for any true democratic faction to send us aid. Governor Korian of the Union of Liberty |
| God Emperor Eccles V |
posted 04-13-99 08:29 PM ET
Welcome to the flock. What kind of weapons do you want? Biological- My Favorite Nuclear- Take a little while Soldiers- Glad to oblige. Ships-Just say the word. We are not a democratic faction, be we have our own reasons for helping you. fight the good fight. |
| JT 3 |
posted 04-13-99 08:32 PM ET
I will not be taking sides, but I will transport all refugees from the war to our ships orbiting the planet, wether they are revolutionaries or not. They will be brought back down, if they choose, when the war is over. JT3 |
| Q Cubed |
posted 04-13-99 10:38 PM ET
The id colony on Luna will allow refugees to leave from the central port. JT 3, send some of your ships through to the embassy, and we shall use several of our SF-232 Arkhangel Starfighters in tandem with our SI-115 Akira Interceptors as escorts. A task force comprising of 8 capital ships has been dispatched to provide you more defensive cover fire, should it become necessary. Governor Korian: My Nation has not, and will not be assimilated. We are, however, an ally of the Brotherhood. I advise you to follow our example, should you regain your power in the FSD. I am keeping a frequency open should you decide to contact me again. |
| Kestril |
posted 04-14-99 12:03 AM ET
The use of neurochemical triggers is a clear violation of human rights. You shall have any support we can offer, Korian. Peter Valetine. |
| Governor Korian |
posted 04-14-99 07:22 AM ET
*OOC* Q, for the last time, you do not have a colony on Luna! The FSD controls 71% of it an d we control the other 29%. I claimed Luna long before you and we made a rule stating you cannot previously claimed teritory. You are now violating that rule. Please revoke your claim. *IC* Thank you Eccles and Kestril for your support. Eccles, I only want soldiers and ships. I am not the kind of man to commit atrocities. Valentine, thank you very much for your support. We will accept any conventioal weapons you have to offer. Eventually, I hope to "regain" control of all that was once the FSD. I have never been in charge of our relations with the Brotherhood, and I probably never will be. When the issue comes up again, I will not support any treaties, other than peace, with the Brotherhood. Governor Korian of the Union of Liberty |
| Ambassador Collins |
posted 04-14-99 03:24 PM ET
The BrotherHood had nothing to do with the recent neurochemical trigers used against Korian. We will provide any and all assistance we can to destroy this threat to you. |
| Ambassador Winston |
posted 04-14-99 03:54 PM ET
Governor Korian, for the time being, we will also sent transports and evacuate refugees to one of our bases on Neknow, which has been prepeared to accept them. There is a question, though. Before we consder becoming involveing our military, we have to know WHO used the mind control divices. Ambassador Collins says it wasn't the BrotherHood, but then who else would do that? Who else would benefit from making you join the BrotherHood? Just a question. -Ambassador Winston |
| JT 3 |
posted 04-14-99 05:46 PM ET
I _know_ it was not the Brotherhood. I personally had a surgery to take the implants out for an hour, and I felt exactly the same towards the Brotherhood, all Factions, our Social Choices, etc. They are now back in, and I _still_ feel the same. Q, thank you for the escorts. |
| Governor Korian |
posted 04-14-99 05:50 PM ET
We have not accused the Brotherhood of anything yet. There is hard evidence that one of the hard-line parties supporting assimilation were the ones who did this. We are also in possession of evidence that they received aid from the BrotherHood in doing this. Anyhow, we have regained control of ALL Luna and plan to attack Terra and Mars tomoroww. Barring the failure of these operations, we hope to have all of our former colonies back by the end of this week. Thank you all for your support. Governor Korian of the Union of Liberty |
| Klug |
posted 04-14-99 07:22 PM ET
ENGAGING MULTI-DIMENSIONAL COMMUNICATIONS DEVICE... PLEASE ENTER DIMENSIONAL VARIANT NUMBER: 233 ENGAGING COMMUNICATIONS PROTOCOL... Guten Tag, These new revelations have put us in a difficult position. We have decided to stay Pact-brothers with JT3 but we cannot take sides in Korian's defection without hearing more information. We would like to send an Ambassador to ensure sure good communications between the Seekers & your brotherhood. If in fact what Governor Korian is saying is true, then this would significantly change our relations with the Brotherhood. We have a deep revulsion to using Mind control to make people join someone. But we are not a rash people we will wait to hear the other side of the story. It is my position that all the facts aren't in yet. Jt3 has said that the Assimilation is volunary & people still have free will. I hope this is true. Just to let you know, We have recently constructed a Space Station named The Eagle's Nest that will act as a customs/entry point into our dimension. It has our most powerful Time-space Stabilization field. This is a field that when active makes the bending of time-space in our local space very difficult to impossible. It only effects people trying to get into/or out of our particular dimension. Its going to act as a Customs, information center & trading outpost. All entries into our humble dimension will be shunted to this station. We figure that their might be other dimensional traveling aliens out there, we want to be prepared if some of them turn out to be unfriendly. Well, I must oversee the opening of the Eagle's Nest. Keep me apprised of developments. |
| JT 3 |
posted 04-14-99 07:53 PM ET
Thank you, Klug. I still insist that assimilation is voluntary. There are people in my Faction that are not assimilated. Assimilation does nothing to the free will. I hope our relations stay smooth. |
| Ambassador Collins |
posted 04-14-99 08:36 PM ET
We believe that in order to convince every one that The BrotherHood did not endorse the attack on Korian, someone must search through my datalinks. I invite any member here to do so. |
| Q Cubed |
posted 04-14-99 10:06 PM ET
*OOC:* Korian: Colony? Remember my explanation? The embassy/compound/colony? The total area is less than .125% of the total area of the moon's surface! I do not claim to have any hold over Luna. As I said before, that colony is the same thing as a small out-of-the-way compound in the boondocks, there only as a small post from the rest of G.O.D. *END* |
| Governor Korian |
posted 04-15-99 07:16 AM ET
*OOC* "The id colony on Luna will allow refugees to leave from the central port." First of all, we claim ALL of Luna. Even that little .125% of land that is an observation post. If you would like to rent an area of Luna to set up an observation post, we will consider it, if you provide us with any info. you find and you pay us a small amount each standard year. Besides, from what you said "central port" you are implying that there is more than one space port. If this observation post is so out of the way, how could it have more than one spaceport? Also, you said colony, which is very different from observation post/embassy/compound. *IC* Governor Korian of the Union of Liberty |
| Galen |
posted 04-15-99 04:38 PM ET
We are sorry, but even though we have some non-assimilated yet among us, we cannot allow you to destroy what these people choose as their destiny. You cannot proceed with this distruction of perfection. We are sending the TSK Bode to assist the FSD. The TSK Bode will not hesitate to fire DimTear missiles if you do not cease and desist. We are also sending Gluon Garrisons to protect the Martian cities (our implants are different due to recent issues within us). AqKnow |
| JT 3 |
posted 04-15-99 06:48 PM ET
Galen, do not do this. The people there have the right to choose their own way. Please move out and let the decision solve itself. Even though I do think that assimilation is a good thing, I do not think you should jump in on this matter. |
| JT 3 |
posted 04-15-99 08:20 PM ET
I am beginning transport of any refugees. Galen, please do not do this. If you do, I will give some of my ranks to the rebels. People have the right to choose. You seem to be interfering with this choosing. |
| Galen |
posted 04-15-99 08:33 PM ET
I will not let him stop these people's dreams! Don't you realize that there is a need for this? However, we will not attack any of the Rebel's bases, just protect the FSD's. AqKnow |
| Galen |
posted 04-15-99 08:36 PM ET
They are killing the other's right to choose! They are deciding against, let the Rebels keep what they have, let the better keep theirs! AqKnow |
| JT 3 |
posted 04-15-99 08:39 PM ET
No. The rebels deserve a chance. What if some country came up and said, "Hey, let's reenforce all the English cities with many riflemen!" in the American Revolution? A great thing would have never happened(author's note: I am not saying America is better than others. I am just saying it has made many accomplishments). Let this take its own course. |
| Q Cubed |
posted 04-15-99 09:58 PM ET
*OOC* Land that is less than 0.125%? If you take pehaps the size of five city blocks, you'll have the size of that outpost. As for claiming 100% of Luna? When you can prove to me how you use exactly 100% of Luna, why, and if it is even possible, maybe I'll actually decide to "rent" land from you. But keep in mind: most embassies are built on land that is bought by private hands, and such land is no longer part of the host nation, but of the nation that is represented by it. As to "Central Port": How am I implying that I have more than one space port? Maybe the "Central" in "Central Port" refers to the fact that the Port is at the center of the Outpost? Have you even considered that possibility? Because that's exactly why it's called Central Port. |
| Galen |
posted 04-15-99 10:35 PM ET
Okay, I have withdrawn our forces, but before we decided we transfered 2 troops per base to the FSD, and cannot reasonably want them back. AqKnow |
| Governor Korian |
posted 04-16-99 07:22 AM ET
*OOC* Q Cubed, there is no reason for you to have an observation post on Luna, for it is not our capitol. Do the Chinese have an ambassador to Ohio? Or Washington? No. I also can not understand why you find it so hard that to beleive I claim 100% of Luna. We use it for residential areas, shipyards, and training grounds for a large portion of our military. |
| Q Cubed |
posted 04-16-99 09:05 PM ET
*OOC* Korian: The Chinese have a consulate in Ohio. The Chinese do have an embassy in Washington. Or, if you mean the state, they have a consulate there. But in any case, the few blocks that i have are just an area for cultural exchange, observation, etc. Like your friendly neighborhood Goethe Institut, built to the size of five blocks. |
| Governor Korian |
posted 04-17-99 07:55 AM ET
*OOC* Ok, I am tired of this arguement. I invite all the other people on this thread to vote on whether Q should be allowed to keep his outpost, no questions asked, or whether he should have to share any info. he finds and pay a lease on the land. If Q wins, I'll just shut up about it. Otherwise, I ask for Q to agree to those terms. *IC* I am pleased to announce that the Union of Liberty has captured our former terrritories on Chiron and Planet 2. We will immediately send Fleet K, composed of 2 Doomstars, 8 Titans, and 3 battlecruisers, to help attack the Achaens. Also, in 2 days, elections will be held for the President of the FSD. I have announced my candidacy. Governor Korian of the territory of the Federated States of Democracy on Alpha Centauri |
| Ambassador Collins |
posted 04-17-99 01:09 PM ET
OOC I vote that Korian gets 100% of Luna. Frankly, Q Cubed has acted like an idiot through all of this. |
| JT 3 |
posted 04-17-99 04:34 PM ET
I side with Korian. |
| Q Cubed |
posted 04-17-99 09:46 PM ET
Look, i won't mind if i have to pay a lease: my question is, can someone occupy 100% of all land completely on a moon? I doubt it. In any case, since public opinion is against me, i'll pay the "lease". As for information, I doubt you'd get any from that outpost, since all that's there are the personal logs of those stationed there and the personal logs of their families. |
| Governor Korian |
posted 04-17-99 09:51 PM ET
Q, I still can't understand why you find it so hard to beleive we occupy 100% of Luna. Also, I was under the impression this area was an observation post. If that is not the case, please clarify. |
| JT 3 |
posted 04-17-99 10:19 PM ET
Yes, what is it if it's not an observation post? |
| Q Cubed |
posted 04-17-99 10:58 PM ET
perhaps it's my fault that i can't sufficiently communicate to you people of the idea of a nation that is mainly composed of diaspora, with a very small, very isolationist, very sparsly populated homeworld area, but with a central authority. |
| Governor Korian |
posted 04-18-99 08:02 AM ET
What does that have to do with anything? |
| JT 3 |
posted 04-18-99 09:21 AM ET
Huh? |
| Q Cubed |
posted 04-18-99 10:14 PM ET
ok. in my case, this observation post would comprise of a size roughly about the size of five city blocks, stretching deep underground as well as going fairly high into the sky. it provides enough living space for up to a thousand citizens, in a small area. it is an embassy, as well as a communications, exchange, and observation post. it does not exert any political or any other kind of influence over the surrounding area. my nation is primarily composed of diaspora, or people living all over the place, with no set "homeworld" in your sense. while we do have a central authority, our citizens are scattered throughout the star systems, and there are only a few purely Olympian colonies outside of the Home Territories. These few Olympian Colonies, are often in uninhabited areas. This observation post/embassy/colony is an exception, rather than the rule. As for the Home Territories, they are sparsely populated. However, the stations and planets under the control of G.O.D. are distant, and protected by the black hold defense. |
| Governor Korian |
posted 04-19-99 07:09 AM ET
If it is an observation post, than I ask you to share any data you observe with the FSD. |
| Q Cubed |
posted 04-19-99 10:09 PM ET
share data that it observe ON the FSD? no. share data that i observe from that post? perhaps. i suppose that could be worked out. |
| Ambassador Collins |
posted 04-20-99 03:09 PM ET
Q^3: Do you really expect Korian to let you spy on him? Letting you stay on his moon was lenient enough, but letting you spy on him? You are truly stupid! |
| President Korian |
posted 04-20-99 06:36 PM ET
Since you have foolishly admitted you are spying on my faction, we will now ask that you either withdraw your observation post or let us refit it and monitor it. Failure to comply will result in a declaration of war and immediate action. Thank you for your time. President Korian of the Federated States of Democracy |
| JT 3 |
posted 04-20-99 06:39 PM ET
Q, I am siding with Korian on this one. Do not spy on him. |
| Q Cubed |
posted 04-20-99 10:28 PM ET
to all: Note that in Civ2 and SMAC, when you set up an embassy/outpost, you get to see certain aspects of that civilization. Note that in real life, when you set up an embassy/consulate/outpost, you get to see certain aspects of that civilization. Why should this be any different? |
| AoYoS |
posted 04-20-99 11:08 PM ET
Yes Governor Korian, let him us this "observation post" without you monitoring it. What is the point of having one if it is moderated by the faction being spied upon. Q Cubed, you have Hercluxian Republic's support on this matter. Korian you are too militaristic and I feel that you are threatening peaceful factions for petty reasons. Q Cubed, if he takes any action towards your post, report this and the Hercluxian Parliament of Worms will debate whether to protect your rights or simply ignore it. Anyways, I, the Centrimate, support on this matter. Centrimate AoYoS of the Hercluxian Republic |
| AoYoS |
posted 04-20-99 11:17 PM ET
Please read my post in the message, rp- Hercluxian Republic, about voting down the bill that would support Q-Cubed. Centrimate AoYoS |
| President Korian |
posted 04-21-99 07:18 AM ET
The point, Centrimate, would be to make sure he wasn't spying on us. Q, if you wish to know things like that, subscribe to the Initiative. It is a newspaper for the state, but written by a private company, that summarizes the goals of the FSD for the next month and you will be able to read those things which you would want to know. I will even pay for our first subscription. Otherwise, my original statement stands. We are not afraid of war. President Korian of the Federated States of Democracy |
| Q Cubed |
posted 04-21-99 05:22 PM ET
Korian: I'll subscribe to it. However, you cannot restrict my access to information that you yourself upload to your networks. What was it that the late Commissioner Pravin Lal once said? Free flow of information is the only safeguard against tyranny. However, with free flow of information comes the fact that it is accessible to nearly everyone. That colony of mine is merely a node with access to your datalinks. I have no qualms with my access. As for you not being afraid of war. Neither are we. However, we do not wish to get involved in a war merely for having a small, lightly defended outpost on one world. Furthermore, President Korian, if you choose to spy on our nation, I cannot stop you. I may get irate, but in the end, there is little I can do. Information will spread, no matter what I, or any other ruler tries to do. You don't have to spy on our faction; in fact, it will give me less indigestion if I know that you don't. However, if you do not spy on our faction, even in the most innate manner (i.e., asking my spouse where she and I went that weekend for possible blackmailing in the future if it could apply), you will have foolishly crippled your ability to fight a war. We are no longer second wave nations, based on Might makes Right, but third wave nations, based on whomever can manipulate data the best is right. |
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