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akathisia posted 07-27-99 09:51 PM ET
I began to design a new faction-The Chosen- a faction which crash landed and had Mind Worms infest them but the Worms don't kill them. This faction survives the experience and becomes a Hybrid which is convinced they are the next step in human evolution.
I tried to balance +1 Planet and +1 Probe with 0 mind control and +10% on Psicombat(also free Temple of Planet and Cent. Empathy) but I think its still way too powerful (-4 Industry, -2 Economy)
I'd appreciate any recommendations (I feel the benefits follow naturally from a MindWorm-Human Hybrid but its obviously too strong tho the -2 Economy makes it hard to earn cash early on)

;
; Sid Meier's ALPHA CENTAURI
;
; FACTION FILE: The Chosen
;
; Made with ACEdit (c)1999 ANX at http://www.sidgames.com/acedit
;
; For use this Faction file select load from
; faction select in the game and write... chosen
;
#CHOSEN
The Chosen, The Psychic, Chosen, M, 2, Tobias, M, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0,
TECH, CentEmp, SOCIAL, -----INDUSTRY, SOCIAL, +PROBE, SOCIAL, +PLANET, SOCIAL, --ECONOMY, FACILITY, 32, UNIT, 8, PSI, 10, RESEARCH, 1, DRONE, 1, TALENT, 1, ENERGY, 1, COMMERCE, 1, INTEREST, 0, MINDCONTROL, 0
Economics, Green, PLANET
Economics, Free Market, nil
Chosen, Chosen
Paeta, Aronstein, Paeta's Rebirth
First Chosen, cunning, insane, psychically sensitive, brainless,
Worm-ridden Mutant
become one with our Mother
to unite man and boil to evolve man to the next level
destroying the last vestiges of mankind
destroying the last vestiges of mankind
work towards the end of human dominance
letting the worms chew away at his brain
letting the worms chew away at your brain
proclaiming subversive alien trickery
alien gobbledygook, M1
evolutionary agenda, M1
alien worshipping, M1
bit of Alpha's energy, M1
serving and protecting my brothers and sisters
my psychic forces
the Law of Mother Chiron
#BASES
The Enlightening
Rebirth
Mother Chiron
Children of Chiron
Brother Locust
Unity
Homo Chironae
Hills of Fungus
Crimson
Allofungus
The Calling
The Dream of One
Arms of Hercules
Blossom Glory
Ethereal Song
Nessus and Pholus
Evolution
New Beginning
Womb of Chiron
Our Planet Sings
Bosom of Chiron
Beautiful Planet
Mother's Voice
Symbiosis
Eurytion
Hybrid
Holy Verses
#END
#WATERBASES
The Living Seas
The Deep
Waves of Fungus
Our Mother's Ocean
Purity of Unity
The Shallows
Saragasso
IoD Sea
#END
#BLURB
We have been blessed. We have heard the music. And now we are
one.
^
^ -- First Chosen Tobias Perry,
^ "We Are One"
#DATALINKS1
^LEADER: {Tobias Perry}
^BACKGROUND: {Greater New York Repulic, Unity Psychiatrist}
^AGENDA: {Elevate Humanity to the Next Level of Evolution}
^TECH: {+10% combat bonus due to Human-Native Symbiosis}
^
#DATALINKS2
^+1 PLANET: {One with Mother Chiron}
^+1 PROBE: {Powerful Hybrid Mentality}
^-4 INDUSTRY: {Focus on the Land}
^-2 ECONOMY: {Hate Materialism}
^{May not use Free Market economics.}
^{Immunity to Mind Control due to Hybrid Central Nervous System}
#FACTIONTRUCE
#xs 440
#caption $CAPTION7
"These constant attacks only serve to harm our Mother. Please
join us in a Blood Truce and keep Mother Chiron safe."
"The bloodshed will end, my friend."
"Never! Your genetic code goes no further, $NAME3!"
#FACTIONTREATY
#xs 440
#caption $CAPTION7
"I sense you are worthy to join us on our journey, $TITLE0 $NAME1.
I suggest we sign a Treaty of Friendship, that we and you can
further the evolution of man."
"I agree. Walk with Planet, $NAME3."
"No. Your mutant-kind cannot be trusted."

# ; This line must remain at end of file

akathisia posted 07-27-99 09:57 PM ET
Sorry, I posted in the wrong forum.
Schoop posted 07-28-99 10:16 AM ET
Well, It's one of the best thought-oout custom factions I've seen. I don't know if it's too powerful--with -4 Industry, they'll take forever to build anything.
Maybe replace the free Temples with free Centauri preserves. That might balance it out in the midgame, as you could build those far earlier than the temples. Plus, it still fits with your theme.
If that fails, perhaps a -1 Growth. Maybe it takes longer for the hybrids to mature.
akathisia posted 07-28-99 12:34 PM ET
Thanks for the compliment!
The times I've played as them, I've overrun the AI (and I play real conservatively- pacifist builder usually.)
I rapidly got my capital up to pop. 6 with 2(!) talents and had a swarm of captured mindworms. I upped the Industry and Economy penalties to try and rein them in somewhat. Maybe I've just had lucky starts.
I picked the Temples because they come so late in the game, it's uncommon to reach the point of building them.
BTW the +10% Psicombat is in addition to the Planet rating. I like the -1 Growth idea.
Well, back to the drawing board, a few more games to try and check the balance.
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Author	Topic: Need help with designing a new faction
akathisia	posted 07-27-99 09:51 PM ET I began to design a new faction-The Chosen- a faction which crash landed and had Mind Worms infest them but the Worms don't kill them. This faction survives the experience and becomes a Hybrid which is convinced they are the next step in human evolution. I tried to balance +1 Planet and +1 Probe with 0 mind control and +10% on Psicombat(also free Temple of Planet and Cent. Empathy) but I think its still way too powerful (-4 Industry, -2 Economy) I'd appreciate any recommendations (I feel the benefits follow naturally from a MindWorm-Human Hybrid but its obviously too strong tho the -2 Economy makes it hard to earn cash early on) ; ; Sid Meier's ALPHA CENTAURI ; ; FACTION FILE: The Chosen ; ; Made with ACEdit (c)1999 ANX at http://www.sidgames.com/acedit ; ; For use this Faction file select load from ; faction select in the game and write... chosen ; #CHOSEN The Chosen, The Psychic, Chosen, M, 2, Tobias, M, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, TECH, CentEmp, SOCIAL, -----INDUSTRY, SOCIAL, +PROBE, SOCIAL, +PLANET, SOCIAL, --ECONOMY, FACILITY, 32, UNIT, 8, PSI, 10, RESEARCH, 1, DRONE, 1, TALENT, 1, ENERGY, 1, COMMERCE, 1, INTEREST, 0, MINDCONTROL, 0 Economics, Green, PLANET Economics, Free Market, nil Chosen, Chosen Paeta, Aronstein, Paeta's Rebirth First Chosen, cunning, insane, psychically sensitive, brainless, Worm-ridden Mutant become one with our Mother to unite man and boil to evolve man to the next level destroying the last vestiges of mankind destroying the last vestiges of mankind work towards the end of human dominance letting the worms chew away at his brain letting the worms chew away at your brain proclaiming subversive alien trickery alien gobbledygook, M1 evolutionary agenda, M1 alien worshipping, M1 bit of Alpha's energy, M1 serving and protecting my brothers and sisters my psychic forces the Law of Mother Chiron #BASES The Enlightening Rebirth Mother Chiron Children of Chiron Brother Locust Unity Homo Chironae Hills of Fungus Crimson Allofungus The Calling The Dream of One Arms of Hercules Blossom Glory Ethereal Song Nessus and Pholus Evolution New Beginning Womb of Chiron Our Planet Sings Bosom of Chiron Beautiful Planet Mother's Voice Symbiosis Eurytion Hybrid Holy Verses #END #WATERBASES The Living Seas The Deep Waves of Fungus Our Mother's Ocean Purity of Unity The Shallows Saragasso IoD Sea #END #BLURB We have been blessed. We have heard the music. And now we are one. ^ ^ -- First Chosen Tobias Perry, ^ "We Are One" #DATALINKS1 ^LEADER: {Tobias Perry} ^BACKGROUND: {Greater New York Repulic, Unity Psychiatrist} ^AGENDA: {Elevate Humanity to the Next Level of Evolution} ^TECH: {+10% combat bonus due to Human-Native Symbiosis} ^ #DATALINKS2 ^+1 PLANET: {One with Mother Chiron} ^+1 PROBE: {Powerful Hybrid Mentality} ^-4 INDUSTRY: {Focus on the Land} ^-2 ECONOMY: {Hate Materialism} ^{May not use Free Market economics.} ^{Immunity to Mind Control due to Hybrid Central Nervous System} #FACTIONTRUCE #xs 440 #caption $CAPTION7 "These constant attacks only serve to harm our Mother. Please join us in a Blood Truce and keep Mother Chiron safe." "The bloodshed will end, my friend." "Never! Your genetic code goes no further, $NAME3!" #FACTIONTREATY #xs 440 #caption $CAPTION7 "I sense you are worthy to join us on our journey, $TITLE0 $NAME1. I suggest we sign a Treaty of Friendship, that we and you can further the evolution of man." "I agree. Walk with Planet, $NAME3." "No. Your mutant-kind cannot be trusted." # ; This line must remain at end of file
akathisia	posted 07-27-99 09:57 PM ET Sorry, I posted in the wrong forum.
Schoop	posted 07-28-99 10:16 AM ET Well, It's one of the best thought-oout custom factions I've seen. I don't know if it's too powerful--with -4 Industry, they'll take forever to build anything. Maybe replace the free Temples with free Centauri preserves. That might balance it out in the midgame, as you could build those far earlier than the temples. Plus, it still fits with your theme. If that fails, perhaps a -1 Growth. Maybe it takes longer for the hybrids to mature.
akathisia	posted 07-28-99 12:34 PM ET Thanks for the compliment! The times I've played as them, I've overrun the AI (and I play real conservatively- pacifist builder usually.) I rapidly got my capital up to pop. 6 with 2(!) talents and had a swarm of captured mindworms. I upped the Industry and Economy penalties to try and rein them in somewhat. Maybe I've just had lucky starts. I picked the Temples because they come so late in the game, it's uncommon to reach the point of building them. BTW the +10% Psicombat is in addition to the Planet rating. I like the -1 Growth idea. Well, back to the drawing board, a few more games to try and check the balance.