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High Priest posted 06-04-99 04:40 PM ET
All right, now that Igor and myself have come up with an agreement , I've taken his advice.
This is a thread for how best to use Hive as a builder.
High Priest
Krushala posted 06-04-99 04:56 PM ET
hive as a builder is easy. just build stuff. their good industry rating means no other faction can touch them as a builder. Just make sure to build enough solar collectors to prevent from going broke. when you have hybrid forest you can make energy from forest squares. forest everything except for rolling/rainy. level rocky areas.
use boreholes early on for extra energy when energy restrictions are lifted.
Cadrys posted 06-04-99 05:00 PM ET
Free Market helps get them past the pocketbook crisis until you get the hybrid forests going...and definitely put a solar collector on every farm until then, too!
At some point in my current game, the Hive took off on energy collection--I'm making over 1000/turn on Police/Green/Knowledge.
Yang *is* the ultimate builder if that's your style.
Smeagol posted 06-05-99 02:29 PM ET
Contrary to a seeming popular belief, Yang is not the "ultimate builder." Part of the building strategy is fast research, and though Yang is quite capable of this just after the initial stages and until the late mid-game, he doesn't compare before and after. Fortunately, though, Yang is one of the best builders, as well as the best conqueror, so in MP games he is immensely difficult to beat. Obviously I consider him incredible in single player games as well (seeing as I've mentioned a few times why I think the Hive is the best faction).
Free Market is not a good choice, because it makes little sense-- the only number you really need to get to is -1 economy, because this is essentially the same as 0. Wealth is the obvious solution to this, and is a good choice providing you don't plan to build up a military while using it. Otherwise, knowledge is an excellent choice.
The reason Yang is such a good builder is simple. Low initial energy is quickly overcome by building lots of bases. With the +2 support, he can easily support 2 formers along with a military, so solar collectors are up early and Yang can potentially take over in research for a good while. Boreholes are a blessing not long after. So for the stage in which you will be conquering everyone and dominating with Yang (before the late game), you really cannot be beaten unless someone manages to take you out early (such as the University with fast research to Impact weapons).
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Author	Topic: Hive as a Builder
High Priest	posted 06-04-99 04:40 PM ET All right, now that Igor and myself have come up with an agreement , I've taken his advice. This is a thread for how best to use Hive as a builder. High Priest
Krushala	posted 06-04-99 04:56 PM ET hive as a builder is easy. just build stuff. their good industry rating means no other faction can touch them as a builder. Just make sure to build enough solar collectors to prevent from going broke. when you have hybrid forest you can make energy from forest squares. forest everything except for rolling/rainy. level rocky areas. use boreholes early on for extra energy when energy restrictions are lifted.
Cadrys	posted 06-04-99 05:00 PM ET Free Market helps get them past the pocketbook crisis until you get the hybrid forests going...and definitely put a solar collector on every farm until then, too! At some point in my current game, the Hive took off on energy collection--I'm making over 1000/turn on Police/Green/Knowledge. Yang is the ultimate builder if that's your style.
Smeagol	posted 06-05-99 02:29 PM ET Contrary to a seeming popular belief, Yang is not the "ultimate builder." Part of the building strategy is fast research, and though Yang is quite capable of this just after the initial stages and until the late mid-game, he doesn't compare before and after. Fortunately, though, Yang is one of the best builders, as well as the best conqueror, so in MP games he is immensely difficult to beat. Obviously I consider him incredible in single player games as well (seeing as I've mentioned a few times why I think the Hive is the best faction). Free Market is not a good choice, because it makes little sense-- the only number you really need to get to is -1 economy, because this is essentially the same as 0. Wealth is the obvious solution to this, and is a good choice providing you don't plan to build up a military while using it. Otherwise, knowledge is an excellent choice. The reason Yang is such a good builder is simple. Low initial energy is quickly overcome by building lots of bases. With the +2 support, he can easily support 2 formers along with a military, so solar collectors are up early and Yang can potentially take over in research for a good while. Boreholes are a blessing not long after. So for the stage in which you will be conquering everyone and dominating with Yang (before the late game), you really cannot be beaten unless someone manages to take you out early (such as the University with fast research to Impact weapons).