posted 04-01-99 11:11 PM ET            

SMAC pisses me off how if you have like 4 formers on your screen it gets all slow and stuff, even on a high computer. I have a AMD K6 300, and it still slows down with like 4 formers on the screen. Also, having to have formers anyway is dumb, CTP is cool, because it reduces all the gay micromanagement you have to do in SMAC, which detracts from SMAC's overall coolness.

Also, having predetermined units is better too. SMAC pisses me off sometimes how you end up with like 1000 obsolete units in your designs, and it takes you forever to prune them off. Also, lots of the special abilities are dumb, the only ones I ever use are blink, amphibious, the two terraformer ones, and nerve gas (nerve gas kicks ass, especially after getting that gay UN charter repealed)

posted 04-01-99 11:57 PM ET            

Kalahari = Calamari = fried squid.

by the transitive property of equality, we can say that Kalahari is fried squid

posted 04-02-99 01:13 AM ET            

Kalahari:

You talk as if your words are the undisputable and universal right answers to the realm of turn based, and I doubt you have any jurisdiction over anything more than your own mind. Who says micromanagement is bad? Are you too lazy to set your formers on auto? Is it that hard to put Governors on in your bases? I laugh at your concept of "cool" (probly just the Activision logo tagged on the box that attracted you) as usually "cool" never means "good" just kind of contemporary (emphasis on the "temporary"). Predetermined units now turn the game into a railroad, kinda boring like FF7 compared to Fallout or Baldur's Gate, find what works and beeline to it every game... Kinda pointless if you ask me, but I will try the game, as I did SMAC, as I am a turn based convert and never thought they could be any good if compared to the plethora of RTS games out there... Turns out I was quite wrong, to my benefit. Oh, and just because you don't use those special skills, it doesn't automatically make them all obsolete... I do think Firaxis tried to cover all, or most, of the bases on the game to make it a lot more re-playable and interesting.

But you have one thing right in your post, never trust any reviews of a high profile game, everyone is biased (as you and I have clearly been an example) the guys at PC Gamer have really odd tastes..

Of course, this is all biased opinion, blah blah blah,

posted 04-02-99 01:27 AM ET            

First thing tomorrow, I'm going out and getting a new CPU, since, by the transitive property of equality, I am afraid his ignorance will rub off on me if I continue to use my AMD.

posted 04-02-99 01:49 AM ET            

If you are just kidding, good work! "That Gay U.N. Charter" is simply hilarious! If you're NOT kidding:

Don't you people miss when I was the one doing the SMAC smashing? If I get enough support from you guys, I'll gladly start up again--you can even give me a topic, or I'll just pick one at random to keep you guessing.

Otherwise, I'm just tired. No inspiration these days .

posted 04-02-99 02:02 AM ET            

I vote we take Yin back.

Yin, see what you can do with the Former/Unit Designer thing...I want to get my position back to normal on them ASAP.

posted 04-02-99 02:42 AM ET            

The micromanagement may bother you, but I love it! I never automate formers or put governors on, so I can control everything, the way it is meant to be played. And you say CTP doesn't have micromanagement? You have to set workweek and wages: sounds like MORE micromanagement to me!

Oh, and Kalahari, aren't you a regular on the CTP forums? Can someone say bias?

Imran Siddiqui
Unfortunetly not April Fools anymore!

posted 04-02-99 03:40 PM ET            

DerekM: It's not a wad of gay, but a wad from a gay. (GET IT YET!!)

posted 04-02-99 06:12 PM ET            

And I disagree on the set unit thing. I think it actually makes the game more open. With SMAC, I spend like half my time organizing all the obsolete units. And whats with the names? I dont want some "X hyper drop jump attack marine tank" I just want a goddamn tank! Why can't I just have a tank! And I don't want to waste my time fiddling with armor options, I just want to go into the city screen, pick the unit TANK, and get a TANK, not a "super hydro ultra mega top" tank. I also think SMAC has to many tile improvements, but that's a debate for different time.</I>

posted 04-02-99 06:38 PM ET            

an extra setting=an extra strategy

Markos, Apolyton CS

posted 04-02-99 09:08 PM ET            

SMAC blah Probe Team blah. Relief blah.

posted 04-02-99 09:10 PM ET            

Maybe not, but I still like them. Send in one of your priests...he blends into the crowd. Convert a substantial portion of the enemy population to your religion and watch the tithes role in. To stop it he's gotta supress his own citizens...discrimination of religion and all that...makes 'em unhappy.

And whats that? Those damn Vikings are about to finish the same wonder I've been busting production on for years. Send in a lawyer and file an injunction against the whole project, bad building codes, no permit and all that. Sure it's a frivolous lawsuit...but hey, it delayed 'em just long enough for me to finish the damn thing first!

Change isn't always bad, man...roll with it!

posted 04-02-99 09:36 PM ET            

Kalahari SHUT UP..
Imran's the man...

posted 04-02-99 11:29 PM ET            

<sigh> Instead of arguing with an obviously irrational person, I'm just going to play SMAC now....

posted 04-02-99 11:41 PM ET            

"By the way, when I hear someone say something about SMAC is "gay" I automatically know that poster is obciously a 13-year old."

posted 04-03-99 12:11 AM ET            

You�re right man, your opinion counts...don�t ever let anyone tell you different.

I know that the very next time I, say, walk outside and my dog starts humping my leg, or maybe I take the kids to the zoo and we notice those crazy boy monkeys getting up to some nasty shenanigans...well, the very first thing I�m gonna do is think �Now HERE�S a situation where a homophobic veterinarian�s opinion is really required...I just wonder what ole� Kalahari would think of this...�

posted 04-03-99 02:02 AM ET            

FYI, I have a wife, kids, dogs, cars, a little bit of land with a decent home, a degree, and yes�a JOB! My own company, even�and hey, I�m not rich but I�m doing all right. In other words, I have nothing left to prove.

You, on the other hand, are an apparently illiterate wannabe student with big plans, a big mouth, and a big ego.

I can see it...a typical Kalahari term paper:

Uh�yeah, wW2, that gay-ass hitler guy sucks. He pisses me of how he ran around starting wars and all making tanks and stuff, even though. We had that problems with those gay japs too.

Face it man, you come in here talking **** like your somebody, trying to cultivate an aura of illiteracy so we will all think you're kewl. You should take that crap to the Ultima Online forums, there are still a few puppies like you over there to impress with your dip**** attitude.

And don�t come in here with some lame excuse that you just HAVE to misuse �gay� at least twice per paragraph because your religious. What is that? I�m sure every Catholic that reads your post will be thrilled.

If your gonna brag about how educated you are and how much extra your opinion counts, at least try to do it in a semi-literate fashion. Check your work, try to get little things like uppercase and lowercase down (�but It doesn't mean i'm 13� should read �but it doesn�t mean I�m 13�).

Come back after you actually do something with your life, and/or get one.

posted 04-03-99 02:05 AM ET            

But who's counting?

posted 04-03-99 04:28 AM ET            

And the micro-managent is part of SMAC's features, it's great. If you don't like it, the queue up production and how hard is it to improve the land around your city.

posted 04-03-99 12:28 PM ET            

eNo: Having HTML on is a very big responsibility. If misused, lemurs like Kalahari could crash threads by putting in broken tags or giant image pictures of nothing that would take forever to load to try and stop the forum from working. Alas, the only forum that Firaxis trusts (and doesn't care if it goes completely to heck) is the Non-SMAC forum.

posted 04-03-99 03:05 PM ET            

Let's get back to the serious, even if not half as entertaining threads, shall we?

posted 04-03-99 03:13 PM ET            

�yeah, you probably have a family, but it's probably an inbred redneck one, who's your wife? Your cousin?�

Whatever. I�m content to let readers of this forum judge for themselves which of us is most likely to have to refer to a relative as �Uncle Dad.�

�And being catholic is an excuse for being homophobic (BTW I'm not AFRAID of gays, I just hate them) haven't you seen that Priest guy from Virginia on the news who's always arguing about the evils of homosexuality?�

There is nothing I could possibly say here to make that statement seem any more ignorant and misguided. You should have been living about 500 years ago.

Grow up. If you can come in and contribute any intelligence to this forum, I�m sure everyone here will accept you. If not consider yourself ignored.

posted 04-03-99 03:17 PM ET            

�Pique, but i have to say that you were being kind of an ass whole in those last few messages up there�

Maybe so. Unfortunately, Kalahari has managed to do just about everything I hate to see most of a forum, and all in this single thread.

1. Begin his first post on a new forum with a silly attack: �You suck Imran�

2. Pretend to be illiterate because he thinks its somehow cool: �SMAC pisses me off how if you have like 4 formers on your screen it gets all slow and stuff�having to have formers anyway is dumb, CTP is cool, because it reduces all the gay micromanagement you have to do in SMAC, which detracts from SMAC's overall coolness.�

3. Manage to couch whatever valid points he might have had in so much ignorance and bull**** they now lose all meaning: �SMAC pisses me off sometimes how you end up with like 1000 obsolete units in your designs, and it takes you forever to prune them off�yada, yada�especially after getting that gay UN charter repealed�

4. Follow the above ridiculousness up with arrogant statements about his supposed superiority: �that amount of studying is probably more than any of you ever will, so my opinion is just as valid, if not MORE than all of yours�

Now that I've had my purge, I'll follow Corvus Corax's advice.

posted 04-03-99 09:21 PM ET         

Sorry, but I agree with Kalahari, you are an asshole, and I think that you're lying saying you have a family. I know that any married man would not act that immature and arrogant to someone just for stating any opinion that differs from yours.

posted 04-03-99 10:58 PM ET         

As for him jumping on someone just because they don't agree with him, can you not read? This goes far beyond simple disagreement. Kalahari is obviously in the wrong here.

I can't believe a teacher would go around calling people assholes...tsk,tsk...

posted 04-03-99 11:58 PM ET            

First there's:
"You suck Imran, CTP may not get a higher score from that gay-ass magazine PC gamer."

"I'm sure any kind of veterinarian will be much more useful than whatever job you'll ever have."

" I'm in college right now, which you would know if you read my profile, and calling me unintelligent is also quite ignorant, as I am going to finish college AND attend four or five MORE years to finish getting my veterinary degree, and that amount of studying is probably more than any of you ever will, so my opinion is just as valid, if not MORE than all of yours."

"Yeah, you probably have a family, but it's probably an inbred redneck one, who's your wife? Your cousin? Maybe you should think about problems in yourself before you start pointing out other's problems."

"Haven't you seen that Priest guy from Virginia on the news who's always arguing about the evils of homosexuality?"

And then we have...
"It makes me wonder if God did the right thing in making humans when so many of them are arrogant assholes?"

LAMO!
Can anyone say "contradiction"?

Ok, seriously Kal, how can you go around tell ing people how smart you (allegedly) are and then calling someone a "inbread redneck" just because they countered you *ahem* arguments.

Out of all the people you have illogiacly and irationaly bagged SMAC and others on this forums, Domk, chrisk, Quaker (yes even you Yin), Kalahari here takes the cake.

posted 04-04-99 02:21 PM ET            

This is about one of the funniest threads I have ever read!!

ROTFLMAOPMP(the last part is "pissing my pants")

posted 04-05-99 01:14 AM ET         

LOL, well us teachers have to have someplace to relieve that bent up frustration, what with the low pay. Maybe I should join one of those teacher strikes...

posted 04-11-99 01:28 AM ET         

I myself like the Formers in (SM)AC because I got used to it in Civilization 2, and I don't see much problem with setting them on auto and I miss that feature in CTP. I mostly don't like the PW in CTP because it's more of a change from C2 (not that that's a bad thing mind you, it's just harder to get used to), although I can't really comment on it in full because I just got the game and I've only just made it out of BC times.

The other big problem is the unit workshop. I (meaning me, not everyone else like some people seem to think) don't like either way better. It can be annoying to keep having to build new units but it can be fun too if you want a unit for one task only (like one that has an attack of 1 but a defense of 10) which you can't have if you have pre-set units. Havng pre-set units is good too because you don't have to set your mind on soo many different things, and it's easier to tell the units apart because they have unique unit sprites.

posted 04-11-99 01:49 AM ET            

Nice to see another post confirming religion as an excuse for socipathic behaviour. May I rewrite that to be more honest?

"I am heavily religious (Catholic) because I am very anti-homosexual."

Basically, you're a bigot, Karamari. You wouldn't be any less so if you gave up your religion, you'd just have less justification.

Personally, I'm not pro homo sexuality. Nor anti, really. But I'm definitely against mouthfoaming hatred of any group of people*. And I don't like religion much either.

Not that you came here to make any friends, Karamari. That much is obvious. But you've definitely succeeded in making enemies.

posted 04-12-99 11:47 AM ET            

As for the gay thing-- I thought the Catholics supported it by making Catholic male homosexuals priests....

As for Washington State U.-- I guess they were having a rough year ion admissions a while back.

As for CTP-- no really, give it a play or two-- you'll find that it gets rid of many of the "gay-bait" frustrations of SMAC while giving you cool (i.e., "non-gay" or "straight") new features...

posted 04-16-99 10:31 PM ET            

However, the Catholic Church teaches we DO NOT have a right to hate someone because they are gay.

"Let he who is without sin cast the first stone"

posted 08-26-99 04:21 PM ET            

(I got SMAC, though, so at least one of those two braincells is not asleep...)

posted 08-28-99 08:50 PM ET            

Anyway, Civilization Call to Power is kind of fun at first, but as the game drags on it gets so boring.

After apparently killing off everyone else, you suddenly realize that out there somewhere in an isolated area not near any of the factions other bases, one small settlement has been established. You then have to spend an unbelievable amount of time looking everywhere to find that one last little section so you can easily destroy it and finally win the game.

Also, once you have pretty much gotten way ahead in technology than your opponents, which I always do even at Emperor level, the game is more of a massicure than a strategy game. "Hmmm... I'll unload my 9 cannons here and blast away with them at the enemy base, then bombard the base some more with my ship of the lines, then after a turn or maybe two I'll let my guys just walk on in for an easy conquest."

The game sucks. It is too easy. Stay with Alpha Centauri.

Although in both games, I finish long before I get the chance to develop the vast majority of the technology. I believe in Alpha Centauri you can edit the other factions and give them and yourself some major tech at the start to speed things up, however in CTP you can only give tech to yourself. I only tried the cheat mode in CTP to try to get an opponent that had a decent chance of not getting their butts kicked within a short period of time.

posted 08-28-99 09:41 PM ET         

To Wolf Dreamer: If you want a challenge out of CTP then you should go to apolyton and download patch 1.2, CDs mod, and Graphics for Cds mod. CD did incredible work of better balancing CTP. I'll bet that you always Go straight to Theocracy and then to Corporate Republic. If you do that in the boxed version then youve practically already won. CD made balanced the Goverments out so that Theocracy doesn't beat republic, which is available later, and so Corporate Republe doesn't beat Technocracy, Ectopia, and Virtual Democracy. CD aslo change the AIPs to make the computer smarter and better but only on diety level which should eliminate the problem with you getting way ahead in techs. Nothing for fun than having you hard won Korean cities being overrun with Turkish Fusion tanks which have the irritating ability to come down where u don't want them(comp is using rail launchers and its space fighters make it impossible for mine to shoot down cargo pods)

ahhhhhhh well, i'll stop promoting cds mod for now. If you really want to give CTP a try then go to apolyton and get the mod. CTP out of the bos really sucks but once you get the right mods, CTP becomes a diamond.