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UndertakerAPB posted 03-24-99 10:14 AM ET   Click Here to See the Profile for UndertakerAPB   Click Here to Email UndertakerAPB  
The great prophet Nostradomus predicted World War 3 in 1999 is it going to happen in Europe or Asia...

Right now in Kosovo many believe this conflict could spread to Macdeonia,Greece and Turkey.
Today Russia is drilling there army for a state of emergency.And Russia declared that they will lift sanctions on Serbia and commence trading immendiately.Now what does Russia plan to trade????
Nuclear weapons I don't think so...
AAA Guns maybe....
SAM Batteries probably....
Russian peacekeeping forces good chance....


Greece and Turkeey are quiet at the moment but can soon erupt with anger.
This is the European prepective right now....

Probably we were fousing to much Asia, maybe the real World conflict would happen on NATO's doorstep in Europe....And Nostradomus prediction might finally come true????

Please give your views to this topic,I know this belongs in the Non-SMAC forum.I did make a post there, but wish to get all forum members a chance to reply in General and Non-SMAC forums.


DEVIL'S ADVOCATE,
Undertaker

TBox posted 03-24-99 10:40 AM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for TBox  Click Here to Email TBox     
Nostradomus predicted an earthquake would knock New York City into the ocean in 1992 or 3...I forget. . .According to one interpretation. So, yeah, Kosovo's a hotspot, and yeah, WWIII could come any second now (Not bloody likely, IMO), but NOT because the Big N said so. . .
MikeH II posted 03-24-99 10:43 AM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for MikeH II  Click Here to Email MikeH II     
Surely a World War needs to cover more of the world than that?
UndertakerAPB posted 03-24-99 10:54 AM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for UndertakerAPB  Click Here to Email UndertakerAPB     
But Mike a war if offically declared by Serbia against NATO is a war against 19 nations that sounds like a awful lot to me.And with all the confusion going on over there what if Crotia and Bosnia starts taking sides in this conflict?????

They are still recovering from a war only a few years ago, what is to stop them from get somewhat involved here..

DEVIL'S ADVOCATE,
Undertaker

player2 posted 03-24-99 11:07 AM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for player2  Click Here to Email player2     
Well, World War I was started in Sarahevo, and WWII was just a continuation of the first war. If it happened once, it can happen again.
Ascendent posted 03-24-99 11:12 AM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for Ascendent  Click Here to Email Ascendent     
Mike H: World War 1 started in Sarajevo. One single event can trigger an immense conflict.

Undertaker: Nostradamus was full of c**p. People who believe in prophecy have my utmost contempt (In regard to their views on prophecy anyway... I don't mean that I hate you )

Besides, at any time in the world, there are usually several wars going on. These are the secret wars that America doesn't get involved in (yes, there is a world outside the US! )

Civil or otherwise, war is a fact of life for many people: Central Africa, Eastern Europe, South America and Asia are all blackspots. The victims are usually the civilians.

Ascendent

micje posted 03-24-99 11:42 AM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for micje  Click Here to Email micje     
Without Russia, no WWIII. That's for sure. Russia is an uncertain factor, but I don't think they've lost ALL their common sense. As long as the NATO keeps the number of Serbian casualties down, the Russian people will not want a war. At least I hope they won't.
UndertakerAPB posted 03-24-99 11:47 AM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for UndertakerAPB  Click Here to Email UndertakerAPB     
But Ascendant for christ sake the man predicted the very month and year when graverobbers will dig up his grave.
He predicted the Great Fire of London in 1666.
He predicted the deaths of several monarchs.
He predicted the French Revolution.
He predicted the rise of a young boy in Corsica who will lead the French to victory and collapse.. This is the history of Napoleon.
He predicted a man named Mitler will take over Germany and cause twice as many deaths than from WW1.
He even predicted the river Danude where this man Mitler will be born. This all leads to the history of Hitler.
He predicted a nation with a red flag and circle in the middle will start WW3.This is has to be China.
But if the conflict should erupt in Europe and if Russia gets involved.What is to stop China from causing a distraction and attack Taiwan and Eastern Russia....
Now of course that scenario I just made has a very unrealistic chance of happening, but who knows?????

DEVIL'S ADVOCATE,
Undertaker

UndertakerAPB posted 03-24-99 12:04 PM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for UndertakerAPB  Click Here to Email UndertakerAPB     
One more thing I should mention 3 of the 5 permanent members of the United Nations are conducting this attack on Serbia.This is United States,France, and Great Britian.

Now what is to stop the other 2 members Russia and China from trying to profit from this situation.

Everyone is saying that Russia is weak now that they don't pose a threat.My I remind you that Russia still has 20,000 nuclear-tip missiles waiting to be launched or even sold to Russian allies for a very good price $$.

And yes the Russian army is very de-moralized right now, but don't you think a World conflict will quickly make these troops combat ready and excited to regain Russian territory.Likely targets Estonia,Lithunia,and Ukraine.

Communist leaders in government would beg for something like this to happen so they can easily topple Yeltsin and take over Russia.Doesn't that remind you of WW1 when Lenin toppled the Romanov family for getting involved in WW1...


DEVIL'S ADVOCATE,
Undertaker

P.S. As said before by others both World Wars were somewhat involved in the Baltic States....deja vu all over again...

Utrecht posted 03-24-99 12:22 PM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for Utrecht  Click Here to Email Utrecht     
1) This is another non-SMAC topic, please take the discussion there.

2) Its Balkan states not Baltic states. Sheesh America education....

zaz posted 03-24-99 12:45 PM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for zaz  Click Here to Email zaz     
It's American education!!

Sheesh!! Non-American education!!!!!

UndertakerAPB posted 03-24-99 12:48 PM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for UndertakerAPB  Click Here to Email UndertakerAPB     
Utrecht who gives a **** were the topic is made..
A war is about to start with our American forces at risk and you are worried were we post it.
Like I said before I posted this topic in Non-SMAC and here just to get every forum member involved in this conversion.
So if you will please stop following the ****ing rules and just give a comment to the situation that would be helpful.
Now if the moderator of this forum wishes to close this thread I can understand.But if he or she has a nationalistic view to the situation then he or she wouldn't care were we post our worries and views....

DEVIL'S ADVOCATE,
Undertaker

P.S. Pardon my mistake it is Balkan States not Blatic....

Kedryn posted 03-24-99 12:55 PM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for Kedryn  Click Here to Email Kedryn     
Hey... leave our education out of this. We have to learn all the non-American stuff the hard way: by having an interest in it and doing it ourselves.

Baltic States: Lithuania, Latvia and Estonia.

Balkan States: Croatia, Serbia, Greece and all those others on that peninsula.

Utrecht posted 03-24-99 01:05 PM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for Utrecht  Click Here to Email Utrecht     
Actually, I do care which is why I made the comment.

Yes, American troops will likely be commited, but there is a time and a place to discuss this. The Game forum of SMAC is not one of them. The Non-SMAC forum would be a great place. Please take it there.

TIA

Imran Siddiqui posted 03-24-99 05:50 PM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for Imran Siddiqui  Click Here to Email Imran Siddiqui     
Non-Smac, would be a better place to discuss this. Please stop cluterring up the Game Forums!

Imran Siddiqui

jig posted 03-25-99 04:24 AM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for jig  Click Here to Email jig     
What would really be a sad thing is if this WWW III actually did happen, not because it was going to happen anyway but because some idiot in China thought they had a prophecy to fulfill.

Now all this Nostradamus stuff makes me sick, especially since he's known throughout the world. It becomes so easy for some madmen in power to think they were the ones Nostradamus was talking about and then go out and do a self-fulfilled prophecy.

jig posted 03-25-99 04:27 AM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for jig  Click Here to Email jig     
Oh, and I apologise to God Imran, for obvious reasons.
Tristan posted 03-25-99 05:22 AM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for Tristan  Click Here to Email Tristan     
Everyone says Russia's no danger, but I think they are the worst enemy the NATO could have! They are far closer to a good and big army then anyone else and they could do some more with it then causing trouble - therfore I fear the reations of Russia. I hope they don't tease it too much...
Sinapus posted 03-25-99 09:15 AM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for Sinapus  Click Here to Email Sinapus     
I think that those of you who point out that WW I started due to an event in Serbia miss a little detail about why that war started.

During that time period, various nations had alliance with each other promising to help the other if another nation declared war on them. When war was declared in response to the Archduke's assasination, it triggered a bunch of other nations to declare war on their allies' foes.

So, is there a Triple Alliance running around nowadays?

(IOW, while WWIII may or may not start because of this, the situation is not "just like it was before WWI" as others claim.)

Ascendent posted 03-26-99 04:28 AM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for Ascendent  Click Here to Email Ascendent     
(My last post on this subject here. this is indeed the wrong place to discuss this)

Undertaker: "Fans" of Nostradamus constantly spout "evidence" like you do. However, they constantly ignore the fact that ALL his prophecies are so vaguely worded that they could apply to almost anything.

You need to read his predictions without the commentaries of some panic-mongering sensationalist author. Read the prophecies and MAKE YOUR OWN CONCLUSIONS. You'll see things in a different light, believe me

Cheers,

A

mooman posted 03-26-99 11:26 AM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for mooman  Click Here to Email mooman     
The problem with prophets, is that they say everything in the most vague terms. To make matters worse, those "Prophet Shows" only tell the good half of the story, "accidently" neglecting to mention the misses. WWIII could sadly happen at any time, and I do not believe because some guy with a funky name living centuries ago said 1999, the world come to an end in 1999. If I am wrong, oops...
swampy posted 03-26-99 12:45 PM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for swampy    
If wwIII breaks out before the European patch for SMAC v3.0, or CTP for that matter, is released - I'm going to be really mad.

Seriously, though, I don't think the situation in Kosovo will result in a wider conflict. Already the Russians are backing down. It will certainly set back international relations on several fronts, but cooler heads will prevail. Right now it's just a lot of sabre-rattling and posing for CNN cameras.

I do, however, think that Operation Allied Force will be the first and last military offensive mounted by NATO. I don't even think NATO unity will last until the end of the bombing campaign.

Grendel posted 03-26-99 01:32 PM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for Grendel  Click Here to Email Grendel     
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UndertakerAPB posted 03-26-99 01:39 PM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for UndertakerAPB  Click Here to Email UndertakerAPB     
UPDATE...... Yugoslavs on the offensive

2 Yugoslavs Mig-29 tried to attack SPOR troops stationed in Bosnia.Can someone tell me how come they got so far.And is this a offical declaration of war by Yugoslavia.


Undertaker

b posted 03-26-99 02:06 PM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for b  Click Here to Email b     
In reply to Tristan, above, who said:
"Everyone says Russia's no danger, but I think they are the worst enemy the NATO could have!"

Actually, the former Soviet Union is the enemy NATO was *formed* to have. From <http://www.state.gov/www/regions/eur/fsnato.html>,
"The North Atlantic Treaty Organization was formed against the backdrop of emerging post-war tensions engendered by the threat of Soviet expansionism and concern over political and economic instability in
Western Europe. On April 4, 1949, in Washington, DC, the Foreign Ministers of Belgium, Canada, Denmark, France, Iceland, Italy, Luxembourg, Netherlands, Norway, Portugal, United Kingdom, and
United States signed the North Atlantic Treaty, the political framework for an international alliance designed to prevent aggression, or, if necessary, to resist attack against any alliance member. In 1952,
Greece and Turkey acceded to the treaty, followed by the Federal Republic of Germany in 1955 and by Spain in 1982.

This alliance of sovereign states pledges, through a combination of political solidarity and military force, to preserve its mutual security. Reaffirming faith in the principles of individual and collective self-defense
embodied in the UN Charter, the parties to the treaty pledge to defend the common heritage and civilization of their peoples and to promote stability and well-being in the North Atlantic area. While
recognizing the need to maintain adequate military strength to safeguard the security of its members, the alliance also resolves to work toward the establishment of a just and lasting peaceful order in Europe. "

Pay attention.

Red Alert posted 03-26-99 03:30 PM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for Red Alert  Click Here to Email Red Alert     
Nostradamus predicted that there would be 3 antichrists. The first could be Napoleon, the second could be Hitler (he named him Ister) and the third would be the king of the Monguls appointed by the king of the sky (aliens?) which should appear in juli 1999.
Also Russians are to drunk to press the buttons to unleash armageddon.
mooman posted 03-26-99 04:46 PM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for mooman  Click Here to Email mooman     
Hey undertaker, THE SKY IS FALLING, THE SKY IS FALLING!!!!
UndertakerAPB posted 03-27-99 01:47 AM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for UndertakerAPB  Click Here to Email UndertakerAPB     
HEHEHEHE "Were all going to die!" HEHEHEHEHE
Giant Squid posted 03-27-99 01:54 AM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for Giant Squid    
I'm not sure this if has been brought up yet, but Nostradamus's predictions don't apply well for Kosovo. Wrong time, wrong place. It's supposed to be a Middle Eastern leader (It's pretty scary just that he knew in the early part of the millenium how unstable the Mideast would be today) and it's supposed to happen around July.

Did I just imagine it, or is it supposed to be more specifically on July 4th. I thought I read somewhere that he said something about 'the feast of the eagle'. I don't know about you people, but I'm staying in the basement for most of that day...


Giant Squid
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"Eternity lies ahead of us, and behind. Have you drunk your fill?"

xgalaxy posted 04-01-99 01:51 AM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for xgalaxy  Click Here to Email xgalaxy     
If I remember correctly I thought Nostradomus said it would be around the year 2001, not 1999. I might be wrong, but I could swear to god I saw that on HBO. And by the way, China is just as powerful as Russia if not more so. China has "THE BIGGEST AIRFORCE IN THE WORLD"! you can check the facts on that one. Oh, in case it sounds like it, I am not from China.
AmericanTJL posted 04-06-99 11:48 PM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for AmericanTJL  Click Here to Email AmericanTJL     
Are youpeople crazy. i say as an AMERICAN that we back out,build up our military,Navy and get ready for a World War. China has the biggest Air Force and military troops. There the most populated country in the world. They have nuclear weapons. If China desided to go to war with NATO, we might not be able to stop them. Our cruze missles are exusted.
Our fuel supplies our exusted. we might not be able to win.(the only way for us to be able to win is if we use navy power. They have a bigger airforce,desent air defences, millions and millions of ground troops.)Come on i say we and NATO countries should start building a nuke defence so that there isnt a world catastrosty(i cant spell). The World need help, HELP US GOD!!!PLEASE

AmericanTJL

WolfLord posted 04-07-99 01:50 AM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for WolfLord  Click Here to Email WolfLord     
Whoa! How did this thread come staggering back from the dead? Anyway, if China gives any indication of being a threat within the next 3 years, we'll just hit em with an ICBM first strike. They will then be reduced to a Stone Age civilization within a matter of minutes. Also, there is no need to worry about a counterstrike due to China's sorely lacking ICBM tech. Nuclear Winter you say...just a minor inconvenience Furthermore, they would have no ICBM tech if it wasnt for Mr. Clinton's "generosity". Great move Sorry for keeping this thread alive, but I just get tired of these China superpower horror stories. They are nothing, no logistics, no modular command (all centralized), no idea what kind of pain would be visited upon them by the US.

Wolflord

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