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UndertakerAPB posted 02-13-99 03:26 AM ET
I convened a SUPREME LEADER concil the measure pass they said I won.But two factions defy me becoming leader so I and the other factions who join my side conquered them.After capturing the last base,the game just continued.No hall of fame screen no u finally won message.The game was just me and my other pact brothers.Now if i didn't get the diplomatic victory they why i didn't get the cooperative victory.Now my game is set on standard rules ,and no I am not using a warez copy..I paid for this game in Software ETC. and immediately registered it with u FIRAXIS.Now i later got a ECONOMIC victory with MORGAN that was successfully.But my diplomatic victory with PROVOST i will like some answers to.Now FIRAXIS i will be happy to download the saved file of the game it contains the last base before i captured it...Please help if u can
akathisia posted 02-13-99 09:55 AM ET
I had the same exact problem with my game and I just posted it in the Troubleshooting forum. First game as UoP Citizen level Version 2.0, I won the election as Supreme Leader 50 years before the end of the game. Sparata and Hive broke ranks and declared Vendetta. Using the Autosave I replayed the last 5 years (I wanted to see different endings) and although the Epilogue was appropriate for a Co-op, a Transcendence and Conquest victories, on the final screen I was told I had a Diplomatic victory. Is this a bug or is it right?
Jeffrey Morris FIRAXIS posted 02-13-99 10:46 AM ET
UndertakerAPB: Did you get the splash screen and the prompt to continue (like in your last thread on this topic)? Sounds like the problem might be the Hall of Fame not registering your win. I don't understand the part about us providing you a save game of your game though.
Aka: How did you win the games after you reloaded? I'll check your other post.
jkm
firaxis games
UndertakerAPB posted 02-13-99 11:15 AM ET
Hey akathisia I think our problems are the same.I gain enough support from other factions to be SUPREME LEADER.I accept the screen then said ZAHRAOV WON then Jeffrey I saw a small screen in the PLANETARY CONCIL screen it looked like a man with lights heading to the sky in a sort of a arena.Then I click ok.In the same Planetary Concil screen it then said MORGAN and SPARTA have defy the will of the concil.So then there was a message that the GIANS,YANG,and PEACEKEEPERS would join me in a war against them.I click ok Then I was sent back to the game.And about know of course I no longer have the choice of calling the SUPREME LEADER concil anymore,but I can continue to do the others normally.Ok the war against the defy nations went well.I elimated MORGAN first,then me and GIANS took care of SPARTA.But there was one more SPARTA sea colony so I bombarded it then afterwards the city was empty.SO I march my battleship into the city.Ok now I got the ELIMATION screen of SPARTA i saw her in a red room being tortured then the doors close it said SPARTA.Then a plague was put on my temple.Ok now I am back to the game still with my three PACT BROTHERS and SISTERS.I continued to play the game for about 12 turns.Now Jeffrey I am now wondering if u canonly win a dIPLOMATIC VICTORY with no one defy u.AND if that is true then were is mY COOPERATIVE VICTORY if it's one me and 3 pacts factions left in the game.I recieve no gaphics of victory or DO YOU WANT TO CONTINUE message.And of course I should have been inducted in the HALL of FAME because my HALL of FAME is empty.BUT last night it is no longer so I got on a new game a ECONOMIC VICTORY with MORGAN he was placed in the HALL of FAME but I don't see PROVOST.And remember MORGAN is the only one in there no one else.And Jeffrey I was saying if u need to check this out I can send u my save game file.I saved it exactly at the point were I was going to send my battleship in the city.I thought I can download it too u so u can check it out if there is a problem with COOP victory because after u capture that last city it will only be u and 3 PACT factions.Hope to hear from u soon and thx again Jeff for your reply again with helping on this one and akathisia the same goes for u pal cya......
akathisia posted 02-13-99 01:56 PM ET
When I won the Supreme Ruler election (all on my votes, I had all 20+ huge bases and all the appropriate Secret Projects,) there was only Hive, Sparta and Believers left, and I had about 6 Secret Projects simmering. Miriam had one SeaBase and supported me, but Hive and Sparta had about 10 bases each and had Vendettas on me. (I had previously busted their Capitals into the Sea.) The game continued as you described Undertaker, so I decided to go for the Transcendence win (I didn't realize that the game should've ended after my election-it was my first time I got so far in the game.)
In win #1 I spent the next 50 years killing off the Hive and Sparta figuring I would leave Miriam alone and finish off the Transcendence. I eliminated all enemy bases while I was waiting and the computer anoounced Co-op victory (I still had the Pact with Miriam's one base.) Though, in the finish score I'm pretty sure it listed it as a Diplomatic Victory.
In win #2, I wanted to go back and see the Transcendece ending so I loaded the autosave of 5 years before. I left everyone else alone and bought the Ascent to Transcendence. Got the Transcendence story epilogue, but again final score stated Diplomatic victory.
Win #3 I loaded the autosave again and took out Miriam first to get rid of Co-op possiblity. Used planetbusters to sink Sparta and Hive land Bases and used Isles of Deep to pick off SeaBases. Strange thing was that I won with a Conquest epilogue EVEN THOUGH THE HIVE HAD ONE SEA BASE LEFT. My final score said Diplomatic victory again.
By the way, my scores were virtually identical (oddly enough since it was the same game) so I don't think the score took into account the actual type of win I had.
Sorry but it was 4 Am when I finished all this playing and I didn't think to save my game.
UndertakerAPB posted 02-14-99 01:38 AM ET
Looks like we both had good games going akathisia but ended up losing what we expected.But I would like to achieve the transdence like u ,I am almost close right now with Provost.But for now I just give up on this topic I would like Jeffrey to later check out the saved game file I have on that bug,just to prevent other players like yourself to experience the same thing over and over again.But akathisia u sound like a pretty damn good player and I would try my best to look out for u in the ALPHA.NET I would always be your PACT brother dude.So until later pal take care and keep conquering....
barefootbadass posted 02-14-99 02:36 AM ET
The manual states on pp. 143-144 that a cooperative conquest victory can only be shared between up to three factions, not four which is what I understand to be the situation in Undertaker's game(unless one of those is a surrendered faction). Also a conquest of defiant factions is necessary to secure the diplomatic victory, so it would still be a diplomatic victory if you conquer after the vote. Probably the game just renames the victory type to diplomatic victory if you win the supreme leader election, no matter what you do to accomplish the win. I'm still playing my first game and I haven't decided how I'm going to win it, I'll probably go for Transcendence so I can see all the techs.
CumuloNimbus posted 02-19-99 12:23 PM ET
This idea is totally off the top of my head and probably way out in left field, but how about after you conquer the dissenting factions you take another vote for Supreme Leader. This is just a theory because I haven't tried it yet. (I haven't gotten that far in my game yet)
Ghod posted 02-19-99 12:41 PM ET
well I have also seen this same thing, but only had one faction rebel.. and after knocking him off the map.. the game ended...so once the moron that said NO.. is removed from the game.. the game will end with a diplomatic victory.
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Author	Topic: There is a slight bug in DIPLOMATIC VICTORY
UndertakerAPB	posted 02-13-99 03:26 AM ET I convened a SUPREME LEADER concil the measure pass they said I won.But two factions defy me becoming leader so I and the other factions who join my side conquered them.After capturing the last base,the game just continued.No hall of fame screen no u finally won message.The game was just me and my other pact brothers.Now if i didn't get the diplomatic victory they why i didn't get the cooperative victory.Now my game is set on standard rules ,and no I am not using a warez copy..I paid for this game in Software ETC. and immediately registered it with u FIRAXIS.Now i later got a ECONOMIC victory with MORGAN that was successfully.But my diplomatic victory with PROVOST i will like some answers to.Now FIRAXIS i will be happy to download the saved file of the game it contains the last base before i captured it...Please help if u can
akathisia	posted 02-13-99 09:55 AM ET I had the same exact problem with my game and I just posted it in the Troubleshooting forum. First game as UoP Citizen level Version 2.0, I won the election as Supreme Leader 50 years before the end of the game. Sparata and Hive broke ranks and declared Vendetta. Using the Autosave I replayed the last 5 years (I wanted to see different endings) and although the Epilogue was appropriate for a Co-op, a Transcendence and Conquest victories, on the final screen I was told I had a Diplomatic victory. Is this a bug or is it right?
Jeffrey Morris FIRAXIS	posted 02-13-99 10:46 AM ET UndertakerAPB: Did you get the splash screen and the prompt to continue (like in your last thread on this topic)? Sounds like the problem might be the Hall of Fame not registering your win. I don't understand the part about us providing you a save game of your game though. Aka: How did you win the games after you reloaded? I'll check your other post. jkm firaxis games
UndertakerAPB	posted 02-13-99 11:15 AM ET Hey akathisia I think our problems are the same.I gain enough support from other factions to be SUPREME LEADER.I accept the screen then said ZAHRAOV WON then Jeffrey I saw a small screen in the PLANETARY CONCIL screen it looked like a man with lights heading to the sky in a sort of a arena.Then I click ok.In the same Planetary Concil screen it then said MORGAN and SPARTA have defy the will of the concil.So then there was a message that the GIANS,YANG,and PEACEKEEPERS would join me in a war against them.I click ok Then I was sent back to the game.And about know of course I no longer have the choice of calling the SUPREME LEADER concil anymore,but I can continue to do the others normally.Ok the war against the defy nations went well.I elimated MORGAN first,then me and GIANS took care of SPARTA.But there was one more SPARTA sea colony so I bombarded it then afterwards the city was empty.SO I march my battleship into the city.Ok now I got the ELIMATION screen of SPARTA i saw her in a red room being tortured then the doors close it said SPARTA.Then a plague was put on my temple.Ok now I am back to the game still with my three PACT BROTHERS and SISTERS.I continued to play the game for about 12 turns.Now Jeffrey I am now wondering if u canonly win a dIPLOMATIC VICTORY with no one defy u.AND if that is true then were is mY COOPERATIVE VICTORY if it's one me and 3 pacts factions left in the game.I recieve no gaphics of victory or DO YOU WANT TO CONTINUE message.And of course I should have been inducted in the HALL of FAME because my HALL of FAME is empty.BUT last night it is no longer so I got on a new game a ECONOMIC VICTORY with MORGAN he was placed in the HALL of FAME but I don't see PROVOST.And remember MORGAN is the only one in there no one else.And Jeffrey I was saying if u need to check this out I can send u my save game file.I saved it exactly at the point were I was going to send my battleship in the city.I thought I can download it too u so u can check it out if there is a problem with COOP victory because after u capture that last city it will only be u and 3 PACT factions.Hope to hear from u soon and thx again Jeff for your reply again with helping on this one and akathisia the same goes for u pal cya......
akathisia	posted 02-13-99 01:56 PM ET When I won the Supreme Ruler election (all on my votes, I had all 20+ huge bases and all the appropriate Secret Projects,) there was only Hive, Sparta and Believers left, and I had about 6 Secret Projects simmering. Miriam had one SeaBase and supported me, but Hive and Sparta had about 10 bases each and had Vendettas on me. (I had previously busted their Capitals into the Sea.) The game continued as you described Undertaker, so I decided to go for the Transcendence win (I didn't realize that the game should've ended after my election-it was my first time I got so far in the game.) In win #1 I spent the next 50 years killing off the Hive and Sparta figuring I would leave Miriam alone and finish off the Transcendence. I eliminated all enemy bases while I was waiting and the computer anoounced Co-op victory (I still had the Pact with Miriam's one base.) Though, in the finish score I'm pretty sure it listed it as a Diplomatic Victory. In win #2, I wanted to go back and see the Transcendece ending so I loaded the autosave of 5 years before. I left everyone else alone and bought the Ascent to Transcendence. Got the Transcendence story epilogue, but again final score stated Diplomatic victory. Win #3 I loaded the autosave again and took out Miriam first to get rid of Co-op possiblity. Used planetbusters to sink Sparta and Hive land Bases and used Isles of Deep to pick off SeaBases. Strange thing was that I won with a Conquest epilogue EVEN THOUGH THE HIVE HAD ONE SEA BASE LEFT. My final score said Diplomatic victory again. By the way, my scores were virtually identical (oddly enough since it was the same game) so I don't think the score took into account the actual type of win I had. Sorry but it was 4 Am when I finished all this playing and I didn't think to save my game.
UndertakerAPB	posted 02-14-99 01:38 AM ET Looks like we both had good games going akathisia but ended up losing what we expected.But I would like to achieve the transdence like u ,I am almost close right now with Provost.But for now I just give up on this topic I would like Jeffrey to later check out the saved game file I have on that bug,just to prevent other players like yourself to experience the same thing over and over again.But akathisia u sound like a pretty damn good player and I would try my best to look out for u in the ALPHA.NET I would always be your PACT brother dude.So until later pal take care and keep conquering....
barefootbadass	posted 02-14-99 02:36 AM ET The manual states on pp. 143-144 that a cooperative conquest victory can only be shared between up to three factions, not four which is what I understand to be the situation in Undertaker's game(unless one of those is a surrendered faction). Also a conquest of defiant factions is necessary to secure the diplomatic victory, so it would still be a diplomatic victory if you conquer after the vote. Probably the game just renames the victory type to diplomatic victory if you win the supreme leader election, no matter what you do to accomplish the win. I'm still playing my first game and I haven't decided how I'm going to win it, I'll probably go for Transcendence so I can see all the techs.
CumuloNimbus	posted 02-19-99 12:23 PM ET This idea is totally off the top of my head and probably way out in left field, but how about after you conquer the dissenting factions you take another vote for Supreme Leader. This is just a theory because I haven't tried it yet. (I haven't gotten that far in my game yet)
Ghod	posted 02-19-99 12:41 PM ET well I have also seen this same thing, but only had one faction rebel.. and after knocking him off the map.. the game ended...so once the moron that said NO.. is removed from the game.. the game will end with a diplomatic victory.