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Chronomog posted 06-10-99 09:40 PM ET
Okay after 20 games of transcend
and so on....
I have noticed that the AI never builds a launches a sattelite. This unbelievably angers me. I never get to attack it with my 45 Orbital defense satelites. Maybe because i finally allow them to get it after I get the space elevator and start pumping out Defense Pods or because of a bug.
Because if they did THEY WOULD NEED TWEEZERS TO PICK UP THE PIECES!
Mongoose posted 06-11-99 02:52 AM ET
Chronomog
Maybe you could rewrite this post?
I read it six times, and I can't figure out what you are saying. My confusion comes from "...the AI never builds a launches a sattelite."
Guessing at the meaning...
I fought a 'war of orbital defense pods' with Lal once, and was losing it but I bought transcendence
AI players do not frequently build ODPs, but sometimes they do, in my experience.
Mergle posted 06-11-99 04:48 AM ET
Sounds like the AI is being pretty sensible. Why waste resources on a satellite that would just be annihilated?
Tres posted 06-11-99 12:21 PM ET
the ai builds satellites mostly in the late game.
but it never attacked me with orbital fortresses.
is there anyone who was being attacked by satellites yet?
LoD posted 06-11-99 04:32 PM ET
I agree to Chronomog. This is ridiculous. There was only one game I played in which the AI launched a satellite (actually two Sky Hydroponics Labs by the Hive) that was promptly obliterated by my ODP's (and I finally saw the explosion sequence - YES!). IMHO the AI algorithms need to be tweaked to actually make use of orbital facilities.
LoD
secret agent man posted 06-12-99 12:41 PM ET
Call me uneducated or just plain dumb, but I don't think I know how to use my satellites to do what you guys are talking about. I'm not a "newbie", I guess I am just satellite-challenged or something.
Ok, so I build all those things, like Orbital Defense pods, etc. I know the other things just start giving me nutrients/minerals/energy without me doing anything active. Now how do I engage in satellite warfare with others?
Rimmer posted 06-12-99 01:13 PM ET
The AI will build Sats but only very late in the game. The AI is always behind in it's city facilities.

AJR BSC SSC
Slagenthor posted 06-12-99 02:45 PM ET
I've had the AI launch sattelites in mid game.
In that particular game it was the Gaians that put up a couple of Hydroponics farms to share orbits with my Power Sats and Farms.
They were about 10 - 20 years behind me at that point. Shortly thereafter, I got defense pods, and as soon as I could I fielded them.
Good thing too, her and I were pact brothers against the Beleivers, and as soon as she got a few Orbital Hydroponics Pods, her power went up. And of course, once her power approached mine, the extortion attempts started, followed by Vendetta. At which time I gleefully shot down her satellites and used my drop squads and gunships to eradicate her.
LoD posted 06-12-99 03:33 PM ET
secret agent man: Acces your faction's Satelite Survey via F6. Then click on Orbital Attack View on the top panel. Then choose the faction which you want to attack (bottom-left). After that, choose the specific satelite target (bottom-right) and press the big "Attack!" button, which should appear in the middle.
LoD
secret agent man posted 06-13-99 11:36 AM ET
Thanks LoD,
I guess I didn't know because I never had those options in F6 before (cuz my opponents never had any sats, I guess). But as soon as they get some, now I'll know what to do.
aceplayer posted 06-16-99 07:05 PM ET
Wow - I have never gotten that far - though I
frequently launch orbital power transmitters.
I would think that with Choppers and the Planet Buster, you can win any game.
Maybe you should try getting elected supreme leader....
aceplayer posted 06-21-99 05:05 PM ET
well I take back my prior comment.
Try the zakharov_2272 scenario at my site:
http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/Dome/3802/
It starts in year 2272 - and lal will launch an orbital defense pod around year 2309 - at least he did when I played it.
the scenarios at my URL let you start after 100 or 200 years and puts you into the midst of a battle. Skip those early years
Plus - I will post high scores for each scenario and you can submit your own save files to be posted...

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Author	Topic: Sattelite question here
Chronomog	posted 06-10-99 09:40 PM ET Okay after 20 games of transcend and so on.... I have noticed that the AI never builds a launches a sattelite. This unbelievably angers me. I never get to attack it with my 45 Orbital defense satelites. Maybe because i finally allow them to get it after I get the space elevator and start pumping out Defense Pods or because of a bug. Because if they did THEY WOULD NEED TWEEZERS TO PICK UP THE PIECES!
Mongoose	posted 06-11-99 02:52 AM ET Chronomog Maybe you could rewrite this post? I read it six times, and I can't figure out what you are saying. My confusion comes from "...the AI never builds a launches a sattelite." Guessing at the meaning... I fought a 'war of orbital defense pods' with Lal once, and was losing it but I bought transcendence AI players do not frequently build ODPs, but sometimes they do, in my experience.
Mergle	posted 06-11-99 04:48 AM ET Sounds like the AI is being pretty sensible. Why waste resources on a satellite that would just be annihilated?
Tres	posted 06-11-99 12:21 PM ET the ai builds satellites mostly in the late game. but it never attacked me with orbital fortresses. is there anyone who was being attacked by satellites yet?
LoD	posted 06-11-99 04:32 PM ET I agree to Chronomog. This is ridiculous. There was only one game I played in which the AI launched a satellite (actually two Sky Hydroponics Labs by the Hive) that was promptly obliterated by my ODP's (and I finally saw the explosion sequence - YES!). IMHO the AI algorithms need to be tweaked to actually make use of orbital facilities. LoD
secret agent man	posted 06-12-99 12:41 PM ET Call me uneducated or just plain dumb, but I don't think I know how to use my satellites to do what you guys are talking about. I'm not a "newbie", I guess I am just satellite-challenged or something. Ok, so I build all those things, like Orbital Defense pods, etc. I know the other things just start giving me nutrients/minerals/energy without me doing anything active. Now how do I engage in satellite warfare with others?
Rimmer	posted 06-12-99 01:13 PM ET The AI will build Sats but only very late in the game. The AI is always behind in it's city facilities. AJR BSC SSC
Slagenthor	posted 06-12-99 02:45 PM ET I've had the AI launch sattelites in mid game. In that particular game it was the Gaians that put up a couple of Hydroponics farms to share orbits with my Power Sats and Farms. They were about 10 - 20 years behind me at that point. Shortly thereafter, I got defense pods, and as soon as I could I fielded them. Good thing too, her and I were pact brothers against the Beleivers, and as soon as she got a few Orbital Hydroponics Pods, her power went up. And of course, once her power approached mine, the extortion attempts started, followed by Vendetta. At which time I gleefully shot down her satellites and used my drop squads and gunships to eradicate her.
LoD	posted 06-12-99 03:33 PM ET secret agent man: Acces your faction's Satelite Survey via F6. Then click on Orbital Attack View on the top panel. Then choose the faction which you want to attack (bottom-left). After that, choose the specific satelite target (bottom-right) and press the big "Attack!" button, which should appear in the middle. LoD
secret agent man	posted 06-13-99 11:36 AM ET Thanks LoD, I guess I didn't know because I never had those options in F6 before (cuz my opponents never had any sats, I guess). But as soon as they get some, now I'll know what to do.
aceplayer	posted 06-16-99 07:05 PM ET Wow - I have never gotten that far - though I frequently launch orbital power transmitters. I would think that with Choppers and the Planet Buster, you can win any game. Maybe you should try getting elected supreme leader....
aceplayer	posted 06-21-99 05:05 PM ET well I take back my prior comment. Try the zakharov_2272 scenario at my site: http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/Dome/3802/ It starts in year 2272 - and lal will launch an orbital defense pod around year 2309 - at least he did when I played it. the scenarios at my URL let you start after 100 or 200 years and puts you into the midst of a battle. Skip those early years Plus - I will post high scores for each scenario and you can submit your own save files to be posted...