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Singularity posted 05-13-99 08:24 PM ET
I do, I'm asuming you know what neutron bombs are, if you need it explained, just ask.
korn469 posted 05-13-99 08:51 PM ET
singularity i asked for one of those way back...look for a thread called nuclear winter plz respond by me it's quite old but really kewl
Xerxes314 posted 05-13-99 08:56 PM ET
Let's see, should we add a feature to encourage atrocities and give players a huge benefit without any counter-balancing penalties?
Hmmm...
mooman posted 05-14-99 02:04 AM ET
I know what they are, but humor me, singularity, explain them.
Empath posted 05-15-99 01:56 PM ET
I found these to be very useful in Civ & Civ2. A few nukes can blast a very large hole in your enemy, and then your armor walks in & takes over. Of course, I tended to have armies of 30 or so settlers & engineers who could clean up the damage...
In SMAC, they could make it an atrocity, somewhere between nerve gas & PBs... and make larger diplomacy penalties for hitting cities. The extra eco damage would also help keep game balance.
Singularity posted 05-15-99 06:32 PM ET
Mooman,
A neutron bomb is basically a nuke in an artillery shell. It has a range of about 120km. While a regular nuke has a huge "shockwave" which does the destruction, a neutron bomb just gives off huge amounts of radiation which kills or severely burns everyone within a certain radius. Therefore, a neutron bomb leaves most of the people dead, but the structures intact.
Univarse9 posted 05-16-99 02:49 AM ET
Hmm, then what about these as the effects?
Neutron bombs destroy everything in a ten square radius(cept mines, boreholes, collectors, mirrors, pods, monoliths and bases) when DETONATE is selected from the Action Menu?
Gondor posted 05-17-99 06:28 PM ET
So Neutron Bombs are what China can hit us with now because CLOWNTON gave them the tech for campaign cash? Great, I am glad to know I will most likely be burned to a cinder in a few years..I will rest easier now.
Urban Ranger posted 05-18-99 04:41 AM ET
That's almost amusing but I don't think this sort of political hearsay belongs here.
eventhorizon posted 05-18-99 06:50 AM ET
I want one!
LoD posted 05-18-99 07:13 AM ET
So, Singularity, IYO they should destroy units, bases, but not improvements or land?
I vote Yea.
LoD
don Don posted 05-19-99 03:20 AM ET
So-called "conventional" missile warheads kill all units but don't kill population nor destroy structures or terrain improvements. Sounds like tactical neutron bombs to me.
AlexanderG posted 05-21-99 12:58 AM ET
When I first read that, I read "herasy"
Nonono, it's not hearsay! Clinton asked Chinese contributors for a million, he got $300,000. For the Tianamen Square massacre and other human rights violations, we imposed 40 years of trade sanctions against China in 1989. Right on Clinton's election, these sanctions were lifted one by one, and American firms started launching rockets and satelites in China. Recently, China has been giving us every indication that it is devoting a good deal of resources to ICBM technology, and China has been flexing its muscles in anti-US ways. Also, a researcher was recently discovered giving US missle tech to China.
Clinton's general laxness and confusion on US-China foreign policy is a well-known truth. This is not much different than selling your own country out.
Nuts, I read an article on the campaign contributions, but now I can't find it!! I'm writing an e-mail to a couple of people, update shortly.
http://www.heritage.org/features/feulner_testimony/ejftest021099.html On challenges faced by the US in Asia. A testimony delivered to Congress which gives a general overview of our diplomatic relations with Asia during the Clinton Administration, and the Heritage Foundation's suggestions on future US policies towards Asia.
http://www.heritage.org:80/library/backgrounder/bg1166.html On Clinton and the ABM treaty
http://www.nationalreview.com:80/01jun98/gertz060198.html On sanctions lifted from China
http://www.heritage.org:80/library/backgrounder/bg1198.html On China's slow but sure collection of US satelite technology.
Criticizes lack of network coverage of Chinagate affairs: (These people are a little hot-headed for my taste, but here they are anyway)
http://www.mediaresearch.org/scripts/temp/Doc5414.html On the release of Wen Ho Lee, a researcher leaking secrets to China
http://www.mrc.org:80/news/reality/1998/fax19980521.html On campaign contributions to the Democratic party from China.
http://www.mrc.org:80/press/news/pr19980626.html
http://www.mrc.org:80/news/reality/1998/fax19980604.html
http://www.mrc.org:80/news/mediawatch/1998/mw19980713ana.html

Other items of interest
http://www.heritage.org/library/backgrounder/bg1268es.html On China's opposition to US Missle defense. Not much mention to Chinagate.
http://www.heritage.org:80/foreignpolicy/assessment.html General military threat assessment
http://www.heritage.org/library/backgrounder/bg1265.html On Clinton's proposal for more IMF funds to Asia. Generally discusses failed IMF policies over the last decade.
http://www.heritage.org:80//library/categories/forpol/asc139.html On Clinton's lack of action against Chinese threats against Taiwan.
http://www.mrc.org/news/cyberalert/1999/cyb19990520.html Some funny Clintonisms uncovered.
don Don posted 05-21-99 10:55 AM ET
Yeah, the Heritage Foundation is one of the few organizations to hold Bubba's feet to the fire; Judicial Watch is another.
Singularity posted 09-06-99 07:07 PM ET
And I still want one.
Krushala posted 09-06-99 07:12 PM ET
I want a fusion bomb.
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Author	Topic: Who wants a neutron bomb in SMAC?
Singularity	posted 05-13-99 08:24 PM ET I do, I'm asuming you know what neutron bombs are, if you need it explained, just ask.
korn469	posted 05-13-99 08:51 PM ET singularity i asked for one of those way back...look for a thread called nuclear winter plz respond by me it's quite old but really kewl
Xerxes314	posted 05-13-99 08:56 PM ET Let's see, should we add a feature to encourage atrocities and give players a huge benefit without any counter-balancing penalties? Hmmm...
mooman	posted 05-14-99 02:04 AM ET I know what they are, but humor me, singularity, explain them.
Empath	posted 05-15-99 01:56 PM ET I found these to be very useful in Civ & Civ2. A few nukes can blast a very large hole in your enemy, and then your armor walks in & takes over. Of course, I tended to have armies of 30 or so settlers & engineers who could clean up the damage... In SMAC, they could make it an atrocity, somewhere between nerve gas & PBs... and make larger diplomacy penalties for hitting cities. The extra eco damage would also help keep game balance.
Singularity	posted 05-15-99 06:32 PM ET Mooman, A neutron bomb is basically a nuke in an artillery shell. It has a range of about 120km. While a regular nuke has a huge "shockwave" which does the destruction, a neutron bomb just gives off huge amounts of radiation which kills or severely burns everyone within a certain radius. Therefore, a neutron bomb leaves most of the people dead, but the structures intact.
Univarse9	posted 05-16-99 02:49 AM ET Hmm, then what about these as the effects? Neutron bombs destroy everything in a ten square radius(cept mines, boreholes, collectors, mirrors, pods, monoliths and bases) when DETONATE is selected from the Action Menu?
Gondor	posted 05-17-99 06:28 PM ET So Neutron Bombs are what China can hit us with now because CLOWNTON gave them the tech for campaign cash? Great, I am glad to know I will most likely be burned to a cinder in a few years..I will rest easier now.
Urban Ranger	posted 05-18-99 04:41 AM ET That's almost amusing but I don't think this sort of political hearsay belongs here.
eventhorizon	posted 05-18-99 06:50 AM ET I want one!
LoD	posted 05-18-99 07:13 AM ET So, Singularity, IYO they should destroy units, bases, but not improvements or land? I vote Yea. LoD
don Don	posted 05-19-99 03:20 AM ET So-called "conventional" missile warheads kill all units but don't kill population nor destroy structures or terrain improvements. Sounds like tactical neutron bombs to me.
AlexanderG	posted 05-21-99 12:58 AM ET When I first read that, I read "herasy" Nonono, it's not hearsay! Clinton asked Chinese contributors for a million, he got $300,000. For the Tianamen Square massacre and other human rights violations, we imposed 40 years of trade sanctions against China in 1989. Right on Clinton's election, these sanctions were lifted one by one, and American firms started launching rockets and satelites in China. Recently, China has been giving us every indication that it is devoting a good deal of resources to ICBM technology, and China has been flexing its muscles in anti-US ways. Also, a researcher was recently discovered giving US missle tech to China. Clinton's general laxness and confusion on US-China foreign policy is a well-known truth. This is not much different than selling your own country out. Nuts, I read an article on the campaign contributions, but now I can't find it!! I'm writing an e-mail to a couple of people, update shortly. http://www.heritage.org/features/feulner_testimony/ejftest021099.html On challenges faced by the US in Asia. A testimony delivered to Congress which gives a general overview of our diplomatic relations with Asia during the Clinton Administration, and the Heritage Foundation's suggestions on future US policies towards Asia. http://www.heritage.org:80/library/backgrounder/bg1166.html On Clinton and the ABM treaty http://www.nationalreview.com:80/01jun98/gertz060198.html On sanctions lifted from China http://www.heritage.org:80/library/backgrounder/bg1198.html On China's slow but sure collection of US satelite technology. Criticizes lack of network coverage of Chinagate affairs: (These people are a little hot-headed for my taste, but here they are anyway) http://www.mediaresearch.org/scripts/temp/Doc5414.html On the release of Wen Ho Lee, a researcher leaking secrets to China http://www.mrc.org:80/news/reality/1998/fax19980521.html On campaign contributions to the Democratic party from China. http://www.mrc.org:80/press/news/pr19980626.html http://www.mrc.org:80/news/reality/1998/fax19980604.html http://www.mrc.org:80/news/mediawatch/1998/mw19980713ana.html Other items of interest http://www.heritage.org/library/backgrounder/bg1268es.html On China's opposition to US Missle defense. Not much mention to Chinagate. http://www.heritage.org:80/foreignpolicy/assessment.html General military threat assessment http://www.heritage.org/library/backgrounder/bg1265.html On Clinton's proposal for more IMF funds to Asia. Generally discusses failed IMF policies over the last decade. http://www.heritage.org:80//library/categories/forpol/asc139.html On Clinton's lack of action against Chinese threats against Taiwan. http://www.mrc.org/news/cyberalert/1999/cyb19990520.html Some funny Clintonisms uncovered.
don Don	posted 05-21-99 10:55 AM ET Yeah, the Heritage Foundation is one of the few organizations to hold Bubba's feet to the fire; Judicial Watch is another.
Singularity	posted 09-06-99 07:07 PM ET And I still want one.
Krushala	posted 09-06-99 07:12 PM ET I want a fusion bomb.