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Bingmann posted 07-07-99 01:19 PM ET
A major bug has been discovered with hot-seat/PBEM games. If a human player is eliminated, the game ends! (This is very annoying for the other 6 human players in the game.)
Goobmeister posted 07-07-99 01:29 PM ET
Can this be recreated on both scenario generated games and MP generated games?
Goob
tfs99 posted 07-07-99 02:03 PM ET
I had a PBEM where a human was eliminated and it did not end. Sounds like another nasty intermittent bug.
But Bingmann, post this stuff over at ACOL. That is where The Next Great Bug List is going to be built.
SMAC n ... Ted S.
Goobmeister posted 07-07-99 02:11 PM ET
tfs, thank you for that ray of light.
Goob
Bingmann posted 07-07-99 04:27 PM ET
I have 2 save files showing this problem, one from a 4-human game and one from a 7-human game. Both are made with SMAC-patch4. Both were started with Multiplayer->Hot Seat/Play-By-Email->New Multiplayer Game
and the Standard Game Settings except turning "Do or Die" on.
Ted- What were the particulars of the game that didn't end? I've tried this with 4 separate hot-seat games now, and it has happened every time.
JAMstillAM posted 07-07-99 04:32 PM ET
Bingmann,
You think that it may have to something to do with the "do or die" option? I'd look for that as a common link and pssible culprit.
JAMiAM
tfs99 posted 07-07-99 06:41 PM ET
Could be the Do or Die.
My game had Do or Die OFF.
SMAC n ... Ted S.
Bingmann posted 07-08-99 11:45 AM ET
Ted- Are you sure the player was eliminated, or did they escape in a colony pod?
I have reverified the bug using all Standard Rules (including "Do or Die" off), and I get exactly the same behavior when a human player is truly eliminated from the game. (I had to play until 2167 before they stopped escaping in colony pods.) This means "Do or Die" is not the issue.
tfs99 posted 07-08-99 03:49 PM ET
I'm not sure. Either the player was eliminated (his 2nd incarnation) or he disbanded his last units on the 3rd incarnation. It was v3.0 too.
SMAC n ... Ted S.
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Author	Topic: Major bug - PBEM unplayable
Bingmann	posted 07-07-99 01:19 PM ET A major bug has been discovered with hot-seat/PBEM games. If a human player is eliminated, the game ends! (This is very annoying for the other 6 human players in the game.)
Goobmeister	posted 07-07-99 01:29 PM ET Can this be recreated on both scenario generated games and MP generated games? Goob
tfs99	posted 07-07-99 02:03 PM ET I had a PBEM where a human was eliminated and it did not end. Sounds like another nasty intermittent bug. But Bingmann, post this stuff over at ACOL. That is where The Next Great Bug List is going to be built. SMAC n ... Ted S.
Goobmeister	posted 07-07-99 02:11 PM ET tfs, thank you for that ray of light. Goob
Bingmann	posted 07-07-99 04:27 PM ET I have 2 save files showing this problem, one from a 4-human game and one from a 7-human game. Both are made with SMAC-patch4. Both were started with Multiplayer->Hot Seat/Play-By-Email->New Multiplayer Game and the Standard Game Settings except turning "Do or Die" on. Ted- What were the particulars of the game that didn't end? I've tried this with 4 separate hot-seat games now, and it has happened every time.
JAMstillAM	posted 07-07-99 04:32 PM ET Bingmann, You think that it may have to something to do with the "do or die" option? I'd look for that as a common link and pssible culprit. JAMiAM
tfs99	posted 07-07-99 06:41 PM ET Could be the Do or Die. My game had Do or Die OFF. SMAC n ... Ted S.
Bingmann	posted 07-08-99 11:45 AM ET Ted- Are you sure the player was eliminated, or did they escape in a colony pod? I have reverified the bug using all Standard Rules (including "Do or Die" off), and I get exactly the same behavior when a human player is truly eliminated from the game. (I had to play until 2167 before they stopped escaping in colony pods.) This means "Do or Die" is not the issue.
tfs99	posted 07-08-99 03:49 PM ET I'm not sure. Either the player was eliminated (his 2nd incarnation) or he disbanded his last units on the 3rd incarnation. It was v3.0 too. SMAC n ... Ted S.