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marc420w posted 02-21-99 04:19 PM ET
I'm getting what seems to be unusual behaviour in terms of Drone Riots and assignments of workers to Empath statements. So I thought I'd post it here and see if anyone else was seeing a similar situation, or if this was a new feature in the system since Civ and Civ2.
I've been getting Drone Riots at my bases. In response to this, I've been assigning workers to Empath duties to raise the Psyche of the base and balance the numbers of Talents and Drones. Just like I've always done with the entertainers in Civ.
Except, it seems I come back to the next turn, and the same base is still in a Drone Riot. And I'd swear that the workers who I'd assigned to Empath duty were now back on the map as workers. Thus there were now more drones that talents and the riot was reoccuring.
I'm curently in the later stages of a big game, so I have a lot of bases. Short of keeping hand-written notes of base status, its hard to remember exactly how the base was set from turn to turn. So right now this is an impression as opposed to a proven occurance. I'm going to start trying to document what's happening by taking notes, but I wanted to post it up here to see if anyone else was seeing this, or maybe this is the way its supposed to happen in this new game.
Any suggestions or comments appreciated.
Thanks,
Marc
marc420w posted 02-22-99 09:25 AM ET
Well, I tried last night to write down the status of my bases everytime I set the empaths to where I wanted them to be. And while doing so, I couldn't document any occurances of the above that I couldn't explain. So maybe I was just imagining things....but I'd still swear it was happening.
Two items were different at this point. Earlier, I'd been using the "Cyber..." future society. Could that have any effect on this? And also, I was at a stage in the game where many of my cites where needing the second Hab improvement to keep growing. Could a city being full have anything to do with this?
Now that I'm developing the habit of writing down my base status when Drone Riots occur, and how I leave the base after I fix things, I'll probably keep doing this for a while. I'd still like to catch the game doing this to me!!!!!!
Marc
Yrth posted 02-22-99 09:45 AM ET
I suffer tons of drone riots after I build the Cloning Vats secret project. Every turn a dozen or more cities would riot because new people were popping up every turn (I had tons of surplus food, what with Hydroponic orbitals and tons of terraforming as well as supply crawlers). It got to the point where I was starting not just to balance the talents and drones but I would go overboard and create more empaths than were necessary (to compensate for the new arrivals next turn). I purposely didn't even build hab domes so the suckers would not keep growing.
Telepathic Matrix is a must with Cloning Vats although in my last game I didn't need them since I was pumping tons of cash to psyche. I think the number of bases you have affects number of drones too so if you go on a conquering spree...and even if your pop does not increase, drones will occur.
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Author	Topic: Drone Riots and Empaths Bug ???
marc420w	posted 02-21-99 04:19 PM ET I'm getting what seems to be unusual behaviour in terms of Drone Riots and assignments of workers to Empath statements. So I thought I'd post it here and see if anyone else was seeing a similar situation, or if this was a new feature in the system since Civ and Civ2. I've been getting Drone Riots at my bases. In response to this, I've been assigning workers to Empath duties to raise the Psyche of the base and balance the numbers of Talents and Drones. Just like I've always done with the entertainers in Civ. Except, it seems I come back to the next turn, and the same base is still in a Drone Riot. And I'd swear that the workers who I'd assigned to Empath duty were now back on the map as workers. Thus there were now more drones that talents and the riot was reoccuring. I'm curently in the later stages of a big game, so I have a lot of bases. Short of keeping hand-written notes of base status, its hard to remember exactly how the base was set from turn to turn. So right now this is an impression as opposed to a proven occurance. I'm going to start trying to document what's happening by taking notes, but I wanted to post it up here to see if anyone else was seeing this, or maybe this is the way its supposed to happen in this new game. Any suggestions or comments appreciated. Thanks, Marc
marc420w	posted 02-22-99 09:25 AM ET Well, I tried last night to write down the status of my bases everytime I set the empaths to where I wanted them to be. And while doing so, I couldn't document any occurances of the above that I couldn't explain. So maybe I was just imagining things....but I'd still swear it was happening. Two items were different at this point. Earlier, I'd been using the "Cyber..." future society. Could that have any effect on this? And also, I was at a stage in the game where many of my cites where needing the second Hab improvement to keep growing. Could a city being full have anything to do with this? Now that I'm developing the habit of writing down my base status when Drone Riots occur, and how I leave the base after I fix things, I'll probably keep doing this for a while. I'd still like to catch the game doing this to me!!!!!! Marc
Yrth	posted 02-22-99 09:45 AM ET I suffer tons of drone riots after I build the Cloning Vats secret project. Every turn a dozen or more cities would riot because new people were popping up every turn (I had tons of surplus food, what with Hydroponic orbitals and tons of terraforming as well as supply crawlers). It got to the point where I was starting not just to balance the talents and drones but I would go overboard and create more empaths than were necessary (to compensate for the new arrivals next turn). I purposely didn't even build hab domes so the suckers would not keep growing. Telepathic Matrix is a must with Cloning Vats although in my last game I didn't need them since I was pumping tons of cash to psyche. I think the number of bases you have affects number of drones too so if you go on a conquering spree...and even if your pop does not increase, drones will occur.