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iratheous posted 02-13-99 03:34 AM ET   Click Here to See the Profile for iratheous   Click Here to Email iratheous  
First off I want to aplogize if I seem bitter. I love this game and I am very frustrated I can't play it without problems. I appreciate any help I get.

This is one of the illegal operations I get (the other one causes the opage fault IN terran.exe also instead of unknown)

TERRAN caused an invalid page fault in
module <unknown> at 0000:0000000f.
Registers:
EAX=00000077 CS=015f EIP=0000000f EFLGS=00010206
EBX=00000000 SS=0167 ESP=00c2a92c EBP=00c2a93c
ECX=00000001 DS=0167 ESI=0000e524 FS=3d27
EDX=00970178 ES=0167 EDI=00971b8c GS=0000
Bytes at CS:EIP:
00 44 f7 45 c1 54 ff 00 f0 f8 99 00 f0 53 ff 00
Stack dump:
00000001 00000080 00000000 00000008 00c2a95c 0052542f 00000007 00000003 00000007 00000007 00000001 00000080 00c2fd30 0052638c 00000007 00000000

The crash happens at random times. I normally play at 1024x768 resolution. I'll try chaging it down to 800x600 (grumble grumble)I played for 5 hours this morning with no problems, then I have crashed twice in an hour and a half tonight. I have crashed playing most factions (I have not played all) I have crashed at the end of my turn, beginning of turn, durring my turn, moving units, moving resource locations in my city screen....
I can't think of anything in particular to do to re-create these crashes, they happen when they want. I have defragged and reinstalled the game on FULL, still have crashes. I crash with/without cd. Except for the known Starsiege:Tribes bug I don't crash on any other games I have (not even the Alpha Centauri Demo has ever crashed on me).
You wanted to know as much about our syustems as we could tell you? I BELIEVE all my drivers are up to date, But something on my system has to be wrong since I have only seen a handful of people talk about this problem. First here are my basic system spec's:
PII 266mhz
48 meg ram
ATI Rage Pro 3d w/ 4meg vram(integrated into motherboard)
Creative Labs Voodoo2
DvD x2 (x20 cdrom)
4 gig hard drive, about 500 meg free
Glide 2.54 (I know you dont use this but I'm am trying to include all known info)

Here is the readout from the Dxinfo program:

Machine: Jeff

OS
Windows 98 : 4.10 Build 1998
Language : English (current regional setting: English)
Debug Build : No
CPU : Intel Pentium II MMX
# of Processors: 1
Physical memory: 48 MB RAM
Page file space: 465 MB free, 47 MB in use
(512 MB total)

DirectX Components
DirectX Version: 4.06.00.0318
Components incorrectly loaded in C:\WINDOWS:
None
Components correctly loaded in C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM:
DDRAW.DLL : 4.06.00.0318 "4.06.00.0318" English Final Retail Date: 07/29/98 03:00:06 Size: 308496 bytes
DDRAWEX.DLL : 4.86.00.0318 "4.86.00.0318" English Final Retail Date: 07/29/98 03:00:06 Size: 24848 bytes
DDRAW16.DLL : 4.06.00.0318 "4.06.00.0318" English Final Retail Date: 07/29/98 03:00:06 Size: 27984 bytes
DDRAW.VXD : 4.06.00.0318 "4.06.00.0318" English Final Retail Date: 07/29/98 03:00:06 Size: 30381 bytes
DXAPI.SYS : 4.86.00.0318 "4.86.00.0318" English Final Retail Date: 07/29/98 03:00:06 Size: 2384 bytes
DDHELP.EXE : 4.06.00.0318 "4.06.00.0318" English Final Retail Date: 07/29/98 03:00:06 Size: 38672 bytes
DIRECTX.CPL : File is missing
DSOUND.DLL : 4.05.01.1998 "4.05.01.1998" English Final Retail Date: 05/11/98 20:01:00 Size: 253952 bytes
DSOUND.VXD : 4.05.01.1998 "4.05.01.1998" English Final Retail Date: 05/11/98 20:01:00 Size: 87487 bytes
DINPUT.DLL : 4.05.01.1998 "4.05.01.1998" English Final Retail Date: 05/11/98 20:01:00 Size: 126976 bytes
DINPUT.VXD : 4.05.01.1998 "4.05.01.1998" English Final Retail Date: 05/11/98 20:01:00 Size: 16986 bytes
VJOYD.VXD : 4.05.01.1998 "4.05.01.1998" English Final Retail Date: 05/11/98 20:01:00 Size: 35872 bytes Certified
MSANALOG.VXD: 4.05.01.1998 "4.05.01.1998" English Final Retail Date: 05/11/98 20:01:00 Size: 12101 bytes Certified
JOY.CPL : 4.05.01.1998 "4.05.01.1998" English Final Retail Date: 05/11/98 20:01:00 Size: 138752 bytes
GCDEF.DLL : 4.05.01.1998 "4.05.01.1998" English Final Retail Date: 05/11/98 20:01:00 Size: 286720 bytes
GCHAND.DLL : 4.05.01.1998 "4.05.01.1998" English Final Retail Date: 05/11/98 20:01:00 Size: 98304 bytes
DPLAYX.DLL : 4.06.00.0318 "4.06.00.0318" English Final Retail Date: 07/29/98 03:00:06 Size: 214288 bytes
DPMODEMX.DLL: 4.06.00.0318 "4.06.00.0318" English Final Retail Date: 07/29/98 03:00:06 Size: 71952 bytes
DPWSOCKX.DLL: 4.06.00.0318 "4.06.00.0318" English Final Retail Date: 07/29/98 03:00:06 Size: 63760 bytes
DPLAYSVR.EXE: 4.06.00.0318 "4.06.00.0318" English Final Retail Date: 07/29/98 03:00:06 Size: 29968 bytes
D3DRM.DLL : 4.06.00.0318 "4.06.00.0318" English Final Retail Date: 07/29/98 03:00:06 Size: 436496 bytes
D3DXOF.DLL : 4.06.00.0318 "4.06.00.0318" English Final Retail Date: 07/29/98 03:00:06 Size: 107792 bytes
D3DPMESH.DLL: 4.06.00.0318 "4.06.00.0318" English Final Retail Date: 07/29/98 03:00:06 Size: 87312 bytes
D3DIM.DLL : 4.06.00.0318 "4.06.00.0318" English Final Retail Date: 07/29/98 03:00:06 Size: 540432 bytes
MSVCRT.DLL : 6.00.8168.0000 "" English Final Retail Date: 06/17/98 00:00:00 Size: 254005 bytes

DirectX Setup Files in C:\Program Files\DirectX\Setup:
DXSETUP.EXE : 4.06.00.0318 "4.06.00.0318" English Final Retail Date: 07/29/98 03:00:06 Size: 86528 bytes
DSETUP.DLL : 4.06.00.0318 "4.06.00.0318" English Final Retail Date: 07/29/98 03:00:06 Size: 127488 bytes
DSETUP32.DLL: 4.06.00.0318 "4.06.00.0318" English Final Retail Date: 07/29/98 03:00:06 Size: 51712 bytes
DSETUP16.DLL: 4.06.00.0318 "4.06.00.0318" English Final Retail Date: 07/29/98 03:00:06 Size: 63248 bytes

DirectX Drivers
ATI.VXD : 4.03.00.2030 "4.03.00.2030" English Beta Retail Date: 08/24/96 11:11:10 Size: 27440 bytes
ES1688.DRV : 4.00.00.0950 "4.0.950" English Final Retail Date: 08/24/96 11:11:10 Size: 50128 bytes
ES1688.VXD : 4.02.00.0095 "4.02.0095" English Final Retail Date: 08/24/96 11:11:10 Size: 25236 bytes
ESFM.DRV : 4.04.00.1251 "4.04.00.1251" English Beta Retail Date: 03/10/98 14:58:12 Size: 20976 bytes
ESSFM.DRV : 4.00.00.0950 "4.0.950" English Final Retail Date: 08/24/96 11:11:10 Size: 17920 bytes
ESSMPU.DRV : 4.04.00.1251 "4.04.00.1251" English Beta Retail Date: 03/10/98 14:58:26 Size: 10368 bytes
FRAMEBUF.DLL: 4.10.00.1998 "4.10.00.1998" English Final Retail Date: 05/11/98 20:01:00 Size: 28672 bytes Certified
FRAMEBUF.DRV: 4.10.00.1998 "4.10.00.1998" English Final Retail Date: 05/11/98 20:01:00 Size: 22192 bytes Certified
MSJSTICK.DRV: 4.05.01.1998 "4.05.01.1998" English Final Retail Date: 05/11/98 20:01:00 Size: 2336 bytes Certified
S3.DLL : 4.03.00.2030 "4.03.00.2030" English Final Retail Date: 08/24/96 11:11:10 Size: 9216 bytes
S3.DRV : 4.03.00.2030 "4.03.00.2030" English Final Retail Date: 08/24/96 11:11:10 Size: 65056 bytes
S3.VXD : 4.03.00.2030 "4.03.00.2030" English Beta Retail Date: 08/24/96 11:11:10 Size: 22255 bytes
SUPERVGA.DRV: 4.00.00.1111 "4.00.1111" English Final Retail Date: 08/24/96 11:11:10 Size: 52320 bytes
TSD32.DLL : 1.03.03.0007 "" Final Retail Date: 07/11/95 10:50:00 Size: 17408 bytes
VGA.DRV : 4.10.00.1998 "4.10.1998" English Final Retail Date: 05/11/98 20:01:00 Size: 52080 bytes Certified

Display
Card name : ATI 3D Rage Pro (atir3)
Manufacturer : ATI Technologies
Chip type : Mach64: RagePro
DAC type : Internal
PnP or PCI ID : PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_4742
Display Memory : 4 MB
Driver : atir3.drv
Version : 4.10.00.1720 "4.10.1720" English Final Retail
Date and Size : 05/11/98 20:01:00 352320 bytes Certified
Current files : atir3.drv(English),*vdd,*vflatd,atir3.vxd(English)
Refresh rate : -1 (uses Optimal rate)
Resolution : 1024 x 768
Colors : 65536 (16 Bits/Pixel, 1 Plane(s))

Direct3D (DirectX) Display
Card name : Voodoo2 DirectX 6 Driver
Driver : 3DFXV2.drv
Version : 4.10.01.0180 "4.10.01.0180-2.17" English Date and Size : 07/06/98 19:04:10 39204 bytes

Monitor
Description : (Unknown Monitor)
Max Resolution :

Sound
Card name : ES1869 Plug and Play AudioDrive
Wave Out Device: ESS AudioDrive Playback (220)
PnP or PCI ID : BIOS\*CPQB0AB\18
Driver : es1869.drv
Version : 4.04.00.1251 "4.04.00.1251" English Beta Retail
Date and Size : 03/10/98 16:03:22 76560 bytes
Current files : es1869.drv(English), es1869.vxd(English, 7-20-1998)

Card name : Intel Virtual Audio Device
Wave Out Device: OEM Audio Device
PnP or PCI ID : ROOT\*ABC1234\0000
Driver : nuwave.drv
Version : 1.01.75.0000 "1.10.075.0" English Final Retail
Date and Size : 02/13/97 14:46:48 9952 bytes
Current files : nuwave.drv(English), vnulld.vxd(English, 9-24-1996)

Joystick
Model : Gravis GamePad Pro
Usage Settings : 0x00000006 Joystick is present
Driver : GRIP.VXD
Version : 0.00.00.0000 "" Final Retail
Date and Size : 09/10/98 10:04:10 31380 bytes

Backed-up Drivers in C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\DXBackup\
None

Inactive Display Entries in Registry
Card name : S3
Driver : s3.drv
Card name : ATI VGA Wonder
Driver : framebuf.drv
Card name : ATI VGA Wonder
Driver : framebuf.drv

Inactive Sound Entries in Registry
Card name : ESS AudioDrive (WDM)
Driver : wdmaud.drv

iratheous posted 02-13-99 03:49 AM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for iratheous  Click Here to Email iratheous     
I forgot to mention. I have installed the 2.0 patch.
Jeffrey Morris FIRAXIS posted 02-13-99 11:00 AM ET     Click Here to See the Profile for Jeffrey Morris FIRAXIS  Click Here to Email Jeffrey Morris FIRAXIS     
Good info. Try two things. Get DirectX 6.1 from www.microsoft.com/directX. Next go to the ATI website (escapes me...) and make sure there isn't a more recent version of your Video card's drivers. I've seen a lot of movie problems solved by updated Rage drivers. It also seems strange that the stability was improved at the lower rez. Update time, and let me know what happens.

jkm

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